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this hope radio for the masses of Lima

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13 July 8 1947 the Army Air Force has

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announced that a flying - found under

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now in the possession of the army the

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babies would change the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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his wood

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to black who's your host Jimmy Church on

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the game changer radio network and kgr a

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I need your help to get to the year 1985

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two black with Jimmy judge only game

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change in that one

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good evening fade to black the spoke

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radio for the masses it's another Monday

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happy Monday to you May 28 2008 een 147

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days into the new year just 218 days

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listing all around the world all across

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the United States hither and thither to

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and fro back and forth up and down east

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and west north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network and K GRA the

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planet from heroes Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody

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how you doing how you doing how you do

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it

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man I love Mondays tonight on this

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Memorial Day we have very special guest

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Steve Murillo is here now we're gonna

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talk to you opposed all night long every

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single side of it from somebody that

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graduated from the United States Naval

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Academy Marine Corps fighter pilot

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director of MUFON Los Angeles for 13

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years now he runs you pars right here in

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Studio City California they get together

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every single month and you pars the I'm

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gonna guess and say it's a hundred

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hundred and fifty every single month you

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know and depending on what the subject

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is and and it cranks up to about 200

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every single month year after year after

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year Steve Murillo has been getting it

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done right here in Los Angeles

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California so hang out for that he goes

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back all the way to and I say this every

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time he's on the show and and we joke

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and kid about it but he was our first

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guest on fade to black

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and what he means to the UFO community

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and how long he has been getting it done

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it just cannot be measured and he is a

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very very close friend of myself and

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Rita of course his wife Pat and and

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Steve and the four of us we go out often

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there over at our house for dinner as

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often as we can get that done because I

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appreciate not only their friendship but

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his his intelligence and his take on

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things it's it's really funny I talk a

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lot and I don't talk that much when

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Steve's around I shut up he starts

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talking them and it's that respect so

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tonight he is here really looking

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forward to another great conversation

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with

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Steve tomorrow night Darrell Sims is

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back tomorrow night

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Darrell sims will be joining us and

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Wednesday is a special Fator night with

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open lines all night long

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Jon Rappoport is on the road he's doing

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the road trip and will be doing the same

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on Thursday so we are moving fader night

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to Wednesday night so get ready for that

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Obi open lines all night long

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Thursday we are on the road we're

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heading out to Palm Springs California

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for contact in the desert and as soon as

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we get there and I'm sure that a bunch

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of you will already be there we've got

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to set up the booth and get ready and

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there's a couple of parties that were

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we've got to attend Thursday night and

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then get ready for the action that will

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kick off Friday June 1st and that's it

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this is contacting the desert week

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really looking forward to hanging out

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with all of you yes I get your email and

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I get your tax in their tweets and and

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your post and everything saying I can't

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wait for contact in the desert and

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that's it it is now officially here

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whining it down Friday night we'll be

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broadcasting live from contact in the

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desert we do that every single year and

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the first year that we did it we came up

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with this crazy idea all right we've got

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all these speakers here we've got you

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know the song let's just bring out as

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many guests as we can and so every 15

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minutes we bring in two more guests and

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we do that for three hours and we

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thought it was you know all fun and now

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it's now it's a tradition it's what we

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do but you're gonna want to if you've

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never listened to a contact in the

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desert special before check it out on

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Friday night and you'll see the madness

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go down it's crazy it's crazy it's such

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a good time so that'll be happening

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this Friday night okay so let's get this

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show cracking I'm right

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it's Monday and thank you for spending

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your Memorial Day with us today I hope

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that you're enjoying your time off if

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you if you do work if you're retired

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maybe you don't have a job yet in here

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you're still in school whatever it is

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but it's still Memorial Day and I hope

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you spend it with friends and family and

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and took advantage of what this day is

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here for which is you know for everybody

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that has served in the military and and

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gave the ultimate sacrifice and I used

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to I used to talk about this a lot but

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when we no matter what your position is

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on the United States or other state

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actors around the world or military or

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war or whatever none of that is good but

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one thing is for sure the freedoms that

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we have in this country are protected

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and the ability for me to speak on this

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microphone every single night for you to

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listen to me and those freedoms of that

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are are here and we we just can't we

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can't ever really lose sight of that you

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know and and I get before I move on I

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just want to say this on this Memorial

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Day you know I'm a I'm an army brat and

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you know and when you live on military

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bases and you're and you're with the

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military and you see that all around the

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world and the military families and you

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go to school with the kids and and

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everything it's it's it's it's a family

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that that is out there and you really

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you really just it's a tight it's a

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tight-knit group and so when it comes

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around to things like this and I say

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things about our freedoms here and then

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and then I'll get the emails you know

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Jimmy then you know I you know the

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United States imperialistic gods

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everybody you know you know how can you

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how can you defend and how can you and

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I'm my response to that when I get those

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emails

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is dude or dudette the reason why you

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can even write me that email and

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complain it's because your freedoms are

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defended and protected you don't lose

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sight of that if the email said Jimmy

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you know imperialistic does that you

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know the and Wars and people dying but

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at least I can type this email and my

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freedom is protected but I'm still upset

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about it that's the correct email but

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you know so don't lose sight of that

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especially on a Memorial Day all right

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now I'm stellar I just tweeted out you

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can follow us over at arms teller we've

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got all of our stuff moved over there

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you can send me a friend request on

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stellar comm if you haven't registered

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just go to on stellar comm use my

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referral code Jimmy that'll get you in

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and and get you some bonus tokens and

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all of that stuff but that's that on

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stellar comm so send me a friend request

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we have fade to black

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over there we've got Rita is over there

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we've got game-changer Network is over

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there and we're slowly migrating all of

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our internet presence and social media

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over to on stellar on stellar dot-com

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get over there get registered and you

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will see there's a lot of talk about how

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I'm stellar and what it is it is the the

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next great social media platform and

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you've just got to go over and check it

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out for yourself and and know that

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there's no data mining there's no

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advertising there's no corporate

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structure there isn't the man none of

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that freedom of speech no censorship an

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amazing place to go and hang out it is

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the future of social media it is the

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internet 3.0 it is growing every single

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day you need to come over and hang out

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with all of us alright it's great the

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more people that are there the more that

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when the blockchain kicks in the more

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that our little token economy is active

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and you need to really absorb that what

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right now we're still in beta test

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and it is this huge success but it's

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getting ready to really really kick off

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so you just want to go over there get

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there now and get in early just imagine

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for a second if you were around for

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Facebook when it was in beta test and

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you were part of it and you would be

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able to tell hey man I was there well

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that's what's happening right now with

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on stellar you'll be able to tell

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everybody couple of years from now I was

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there man

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I was listening to fade to black I got

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in and I was hanging out I was there man

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I saw the changes and I'm being serious

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get over town stellar calm you can

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follow me on Twitter right now at Jay

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Church radio a church radio that's where

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I hang out during the show and the

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sandbox where all the conversations go

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off in real time is hashtag F to be

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hashtag F to be Q is fade to black

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questions okay for any comments or

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anything like that during the show

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tonight you can also email Jimmy and

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Jimmy Church radio.com

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all right I love my River moon coffee oh

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yeah it's in that booth I gotta mention

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this Tonetta Luth when I said we need a

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name for the new fade to black

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CBD all right we mean we need a name for

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it tonight came up with CB dark CB dark

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and that's what we're going with

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it's called CB dark Tonetta thank you

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tonight I hope you're out there

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listening I haven't seen any posts on

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Twitter but congratulations on that it

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it was just amazing and I saw when I saw

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it she called in on the show right after

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that and when I saw it

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everybody had great suggestions and

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they're still coming in by the way but

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CB dark just hit it just hit it hit with

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me I was at AOL in the beginning I know

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right so was I so was i I remember a AOL

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floppy disk yeah remember that before

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they got remember this Seeta that those

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CDs were coming in the mail every single

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day I had so many of those CDs but I had

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a hill well floppies yeah I remember

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those days all right

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breaking news last week President Trump

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canceled the North Korea summit today

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it's back on and well sort of I think he

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forgot that he canceled it it's kind of

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weird he's really weird with Drive right

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now and I want this summit to go down I

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want a nuclear-free zone over there I

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don't want any more threats coming out

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of North Korea be really cool for the

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world for Guam right or South Korea of

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course Japan but he cancelled it just

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like well it's back on so anyway right

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now the u.s. is meeting and apparently

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they they've wrapped up their meetings

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in North Korea maybe they're in a secret

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location but now it was suggested today

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that they're meeting in Washington I

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guess and at a secret location I heard

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some stories about that very bizarre but

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and this is the other thing that was

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leaked there they're picking out

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restaurants yeah they're making dinner

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plans so you can't have a successful

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summit right

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without good appetizers so they are

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working on that right now yeah tonight

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tonight you deserve that Thank You

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Olivia I'm gonna retweet that that's

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pretty cool tonight came through all

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right see be dark all one word by the

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way see be dark right see be dark one

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word okay where am I at don't forget

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we're gonna be of course at contact in

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the desert this week in tune 1st through

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the 4th we leave Thursday we get there

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Friday but then right after that

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is our sole tech gathering and also in

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between and we'll start to make the

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announcements on this June 23rd here in

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Los Angeles California is disclosure

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fest and I think it's disclosure fest

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dot org you can go there for information

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this is a free festival in downtown Los

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Angeles at the historical Los Angeles

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Park downtown next to Chinatown

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beautiful beautiful place I think it's

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about 35 acres multiple stages lots of

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speakers and and things to do and hang

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out so that's going down June 23rd I

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will be there there is a long list of

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speakers and I'll get all of that

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together and so to make that

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announcement - and then right after that

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August 9th through the 12th is Sol Tech

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up at ISA T ranch all you have to do is

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go to Seoul tech gathering comm and

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we've got a great list no we're going to

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be teaching up there we're gonna be

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teaching ok

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so Corey Goods going to be there special

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guest we've got James Gilliland Jason

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quit Matthew Ryan Michaela Sheldon

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Teresa NRS Mary Gabriel and John lund

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Dana Harvey and we've just added a few

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more speakers teachers that are gonna be

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there so we're tightening all of that

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down we've got to get it up on the

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website and and get that stuff modified

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but I'll start making those

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announcements in the days and weeks

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ahead but we're only selling 300 tickets

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crackin happy birthday to today Gladys

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Knight Gladys Knight is 74 years old

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Rita and I had the privilege of seeing

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Gladys Knight man probably 13 years ago

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2005 at the Hollywood Bowl one of one of

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the most incredible shows ever just

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incredible incredible night and a happy

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birthday Gladys Knight 74 years old Wow

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our dead guys birthday today are you

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Rob Ford 1969 to 2016 died at the age of

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46 of course he was the loud and

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colorful 64th mayor of Toronto Ontario

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who gained media attention back in 2013

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for drug use and aggressive language

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those videos were unbelievable 2014

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despite admitting to you using crack

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cocaine he refused to resign though many

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of his powers were removed by the

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Toronto City Council John Tory succeeded

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him as mayor on December 1st 2014 while

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Ford regained his former seat for the

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City Council he was hospitalized and

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diagnosed with a tumor in September 2014

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he received treatment for the cancer but

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was able to go back briefly to City Hall

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but ended up dying in March 2016 after

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chemotherapy was ineffective happy

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birthday Rob Ford OTD on this day in

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history 1980

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seven yes he died Sara yeah he died yeah

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1987 on this day in history Mateus rust

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Mateus roost a 19 year old amateur pilot

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from West Germany takes off from

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Helsinki Finland travels through more

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than 400 miles of Soviet airspace

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glances small Cessna craft in red square

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next to the Kremlin he was arrested for

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violating Soviet airspace and sentenced

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to prison

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he served 18 months before being

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released and that was a big deal my

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memory says cover of Time magazine

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that's when that's that was a that was a

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really big deal

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here's your fader fact for the day there

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are no Walmart's in New York City that's

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right

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or Staten Island or Brooklyn Queens nope

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nada you got to go to New Jersey or a

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Long Island but there's no Walmart in

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New York City can you believe that

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Staten Island Brooklyn Queens and you

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know how I did it you know how I found

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that out I looked up Walmart in New York

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City today and went to Google look at

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the maps there aren't any I couldn't

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believe it

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so there's your fader fact and I thought

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that you would enjoy that there are no

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Walmart's in New York City you could

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walk down Rita and I when we were in

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Manhattan last year we're walking around

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and we wanted to go to we were eating

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and then we wanted to we had to had to

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go to Macy's I needed a shirt right all

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right let's go to Macy's all right so

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walk no Street and across the street for

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Macy's is a target right so you got a

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target in Manhattan but you don't have a

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Walmart yeah the target is pretty nice

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too it's pretty big tonight very special

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guest Steve Murillo is here and I as

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promised we

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are going to talk UFOs all night long I

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just got a text from Steve so I think

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he's listening right now Steve text me

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back right now if you're listening to me

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I just want to know are you listening to

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the show I don't know I wanted to talk

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about something well I do every night at

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about this time I need you to think

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about this our universe is expanding we

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hear about this all the time and it's

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it's expanding faster faster the rate is

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increasing so check this out I know that

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I try to drive home with with everyone

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every night just how many galaxies stars

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and planets are out there and all you

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have to do is look up right go look at

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some Hubble images yeah and and going

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and and just observe man has been doing

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this forever looking up at the sky

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looking at the stars right well just

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imagine one day and it will happen when

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eventually everything will expand to the

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point where there will be nothing but

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vast empty space everywhere everything

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there will be nothing there the universe

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is gonna expand to the point where it's

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gonna be billions of light years to the

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next closest anything that's what's

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gonna happen one day the last star in

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our universe will die there will be

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nothing everything will be doc I'm sure

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by that point billions from the ears

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from now when the last star dies out we

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will have built massive artificial

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planets right starships and will just

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drive around to nothing cruising the

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blackness of it all it's a heavy thought

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isn't it where you could be on earth and

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look up and no stars our Sun at that

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point should still be here maybe we will

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have survived comets and asteroids and

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and everything else that could possibly

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go wrong

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and maybe we'll still be on this planet

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maybe not but just imagine that for a

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second looking up and seeing nothing now

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at that point if you were on a ship and

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you were flying through the universe at

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that point cruising through the universe

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he wouldn't be flying and there would be

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nothing there you wouldn't see any stars

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you wouldn't see anything everything

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would be too far away we would not see

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anything but the the things that you

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might see would be lone rogue little lit

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up photons just crazy little little

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things flying by but as far as stars go

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no and and when the last star goes out

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you know the last star then there is

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nothing there will be nothing and when

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the stars

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out and depending on how they want to

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die and what they want to do there will

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literally be nothing left of it either

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there'll be nothing in the universe

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it's a crazy thought isn't it because

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today I talked about I mentioned last

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week if you held up a dime you know I

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said my guitar pick right if you're hell

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of a guitar pick at a blank spot in the

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sky anywhere where there's no stars you

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know right there there's a hundred and

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fifty thousand galaxies with a trillion

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stars in each one right right there

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that's what we have but one day we won't

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strange isn't it you know and and when

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you look at things like that making

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contact now making contact and reaching

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out is what you want to do they're

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getting farther away we're getting

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farther away we're spreading apart the

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universe is a sphere

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you know expanding and going and

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eventually it's just gonna be nothing

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it's not right that's why you come to

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fade to black cuz I just want you to

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trip I just want you to think I just

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want you to stop and go WOW right

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we're only here for a blip right our

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little lives you know our little lives

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let's let's make as much of it while we

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are here together this is fade to black

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I am your host Jimmy Church I'll be

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right back with tonight's guest who was

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our first-time guest Steve Murillo this

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is faded black I'm Yours Jimmy Church

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email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com

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I'll be right back I like a Steve

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the United States Naval Academy where he

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received his Bachelor degree of Science

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in systems engineering in 1982 he was

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commissioned as an officer in the Marine

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Corps attended flight school served for

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seven years of active duty as a jet

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pilot and maintenance officer for his

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squadron after the Marine Corps he went

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to TRW where he became the power

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subsystem engineer for a satellite

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program known as the tdrss tracking and

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data relay satellite system flight 7

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steve was the mufon los angeles director

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he held this position for 13 years

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conducting field investigations and of

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course those famous monthly meetings

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until June of 2013 now Steve heads up

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you pars Los Angeles the UFO Paranormal

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Research Society Los Angeles Chapter he

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00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:16,260
and his group investigate all things UFO

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paranormal and have monthly meetings in

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Studio City California

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you can go to you pars LA dot org and I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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I'm doing good I just sneezed

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I hit the COFF button it's even better

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to hear your Steve and I I want to

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welcome you back it's been it's been too

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long since you've been on the show first

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00:34:54,139 --> 00:34:51,389
off but your life is extremely busy just

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like everybody else is and I just want

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to thank you for taking the time out for

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coming on the show tonight so we can

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have another dynamic conversation but

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you've got you pars you've got on

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stellar you've got contact in the desert

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coming up this week you're a very busy

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man and and every single month month

641
00:35:13,849 --> 00:35:11,789
after month you have your you know your

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00:35:16,279 --> 00:35:13,859
famous meetings out here in Studio City

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00:35:20,329 --> 00:35:16,289
California man you have never rested

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:20,339
have you I do not rest man no rest for

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the wicked and you know we're sort of on

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00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:24,599
a mission you and I along with a lot of

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00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:27,569
other people out there and you know it's

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00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:30,450
about it's about disclosure it's about

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forcing disclosure if we ever think

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about doing that and I don't know if

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we're gonna have to it seems like it's

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00:35:41,420 --> 00:35:39,450
almost happening organically now and I

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am so looking forward to contact in the

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desert because we're going to have a

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00:35:48,109 --> 00:35:44,460
great time there there's gonna be a lot

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of new information revealed and I'm

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working I've been working on a

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presentation for the last two weeks and

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I hope it's good I hope the audience

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00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,059
doesn't fall asleep but it's gonna have

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a lot to do with you know what's next

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00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:02,250
you know we have disclosure hopefully

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00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:05,160
coming up soon but then what's next

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you know once man kind gets their mind

665
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:12,299
wrapped around that reality what do we

666
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,529
do next we go yeah and you because you

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00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:18,960
you seem to be at the center of it all

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and and and what I mean by that Steve is

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you doing

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00:36:31,279 --> 00:36:29,579
MUFON for 13 years the largest MUFON

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00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:31,289
chapter in the world right here in Los

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00:36:40,309 --> 00:36:36,660
Angeles and it's it it was big and now

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00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:40,319
you pars every single month you gather

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you know a hundred or 200 people

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00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:45,660
together what is the atmosphere they're

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00:36:50,319 --> 00:36:48,180
like now what are they talking about as

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00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:50,329
certainly when it comes to disclosure

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00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:53,250
how excited are they because you get you

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00:36:58,690 --> 00:36:55,140
get everybody's opinions out there oh

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absolutely you know most of these people

681
00:37:03,769 --> 00:37:01,589
have been waiting for it for so long and

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00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:03,779
a lot of them you know they've been

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00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:05,609
hearing it you're in you're out it's

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00:37:10,339 --> 00:37:07,430
coming it's coming it's coming but now

685
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,349
it really looks like it is coming you

686
00:37:13,090 --> 00:37:12,480
know we had kind of a soft disclosure

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00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:13,100
happening

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December through the Navy through Lewis

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:20,990
Elizondo and all that and you know we're

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00:37:25,060 --> 00:37:23,210
trying to make sense of all that you

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:25,070
know trying to figure out sort the wheat

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00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:27,530
from the chaff so to speak but the

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00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,110
audience my audience my people will call

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:32,960
my people my tribe you know they're sort

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00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:34,130
of sitting on the edge of their seat

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00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:40,040
right now and it's really great timing

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00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:42,890
for something like on stellar you know

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00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:46,310
on stellar is a team effort and and the

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team even consists literally consists of

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the people that are members that's

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00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:51,350
that's really the team that's what's

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00:37:57,850 --> 00:37:54,350
driving it but it's vision it was

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00:37:59,710 --> 00:37:57,860
created to sort of drive to drive

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continue to drive this narrative this

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00:38:03,970 --> 00:38:01,970
disclosure narrative it's a place where

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people can get together and discuss

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00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:06,290
these things without fear of ridicule

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00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:08,870
without fear being made fun of everybody

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00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:10,850
on on Stellar's is what I love about

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00:38:15,150 --> 00:38:12,170
this thing Jimmy it's a community where

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00:38:17,470 --> 00:38:15,160
everybody there is sort of on the same

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00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:17,480
frequency on the same vibration you know

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00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:19,550
what I mean and we can talk and have

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00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:23,320
actually intellectual discussions about

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00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:26,900
abduction about UFOs about free energy

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00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:28,610
things like that so that's what on

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00:38:32,530 --> 00:38:31,070
stellar was designed to be built that's

718
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:32,540
what it was designed for is to create

719
00:38:36,910 --> 00:38:34,910
that forum and you know there are a ton

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00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:36,920
of things in the works that are gonna be

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00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:38,180
gone stellar even better than it already

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00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:40,760
is so I'm really excited about that well

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00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:45,740
the the thing that makes on stellar so

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00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:50,390
cool is what makes you pars so cool

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00:38:56,350 --> 00:38:53,390
right I I have said this many times

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00:39:00,970 --> 00:38:56,360
Steve the first time I went to a MUFON

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00:39:05,140 --> 00:39:00,980
meeting 10 years ago out there in a

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00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:05,150
studio city and I member let me

729
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:06,410
interrupt you for a second I remember

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00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:09,770
you were you were you know you you wore

731
00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:11,960
a suit it wasn't you didn't have a tie

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:14,300
on you had a nice suit on it was if I

733
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:15,290
remember was kind of a cream-colored

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00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:19,130
suit and Wolf McCarron introduced me and

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00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:21,260
you were very humble but yeah I could

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00:39:25,870 --> 00:39:22,610
tell you were there for a reason or

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00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:25,880
purpose and it was cool and you know guy

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00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:26,870
that was 10 years ago

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00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:30,140
I know that was ten years ago and I was

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sports casting back then I wasn't even

741
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:33,710
you know I wasn't doing fade to black

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00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:39,680
and so but anyway I showed up there and

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:43,670
I this is what I remember it was so much

744
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:46,610
like what on stellar is today I was

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00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:49,250
standing in the middle of the room

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00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:51,710
listening to everybody talk and I'm

747
00:39:55,570 --> 00:39:53,870
listening to Alex Mastretta I'm

748
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,580
listening literally listen to what he's

749
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:57,200
saying to somebody else about a sighting

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00:40:02,170 --> 00:39:59,330
and they were referring to another case

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00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,180
from 20 years before that how they were

752
00:40:06,490 --> 00:40:03,920
similar and I turned the other direction

753
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:06,500
and and wolf is talking to somebody else

754
00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:09,440
about you know area 51 and I turned to

755
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,760
my left and somebody is talking about

756
00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:12,800
this abduction experience that they went

757
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:16,220
through and I'm standing there saying to

758
00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:19,180
myself I'm with my people

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00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:24,230
everybody here is talking freely right

760
00:40:32,860 --> 00:40:27,170
there just letting it all out and I just

761
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:32,870
felt so at home and that is exactly what

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00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:34,910
on stellar represents and you're

763
00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:38,690
absolutely right about that you having

764
00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:41,840
you pars and being able to put this on

765
00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:44,270
every single month this audience needs

766
00:40:47,830 --> 00:40:46,340
understand we're talking about a hundred

767
00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:47,840
to two hundred people that get together

768
00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:52,580
not not 20 not ten not five but a very

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00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,350
large group that gets together every

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00:40:59,490 --> 00:40:56,720
single month but first Tuesday right

771
00:41:02,830 --> 00:40:59,500
[Laughter]

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00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:02,840
Tuesday third Tuesday of every month for

773
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,440
the last you know 15 years right up 18

774
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:10,160
years 18 years and so anyway know holy

775
00:41:17,650 --> 00:41:13,970
yeah I know I know and and that freedom

776
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:17,660
is what people need to just go and share

777
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:19,370
their experiences and what their

778
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:22,850
interests are and what I found just like

779
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:26,210
what on stellar represents now you with

780
00:41:33,550 --> 00:41:30,770
MUFON back in 2000 when we made the

781
00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:33,560
change I guess that was 13 yeah yeah

782
00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:39,360
yeah 2013 you felt that the paranoia

783
00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:42,780
well isn't just represented by this

784
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:45,300
community isn't just represented by UFOs

785
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:47,700
it's everything that falls underneath

786
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:50,820
that umbrella and that everything could

787
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:53,820
be connected and you wanted to be able

788
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:56,790
to investigate all things and that's

789
00:42:01,850 --> 00:41:59,370
what I'm stellar is I'm stellar is you

790
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:01,860
know zero-point energy it's it's it's

791
00:42:06,490 --> 00:42:04,170
holistic sits it's health it's the

792
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:06,500
universe it's Egypt it's ancient history

793
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,730
lost history

794
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:11,280
near-death experiences time travel

795
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:15,660
parallel worlds UFOs right it's that is

796
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:19,170
what this community represents and and

797
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:21,750
just like what goes on out at you pars

798
00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:23,550
right and that's what that's why you

799
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:26,100
decided to make the change that's right

800
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:27,180
that's exactly right

801
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:29,700
yeah you know investigating UFOs I've

802
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,350
said as a million times investigating

803
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:33,480
ufology investing said investigating say

804
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:35,610
an abduction you'll find paranormal

805
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:38,310
activity surrounding the individual

806
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,110
who's being abducted periodically you

807
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:42,960
know or you know people have seen

808
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:45,810
Bigfoot when they see a UFO and and you

809
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,550
know I did I did not believe in Bigfoot

810
00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:49,680
until just a few years ago when when

811
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:51,990
Mastretta and I came across a track with

812
00:42:56,990 --> 00:42:53,570
a few other people we were out actually

813
00:42:59,450 --> 00:42:57,000
near East SETI ranch and wandering

814
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,460
around in the and the Outback and sure

815
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:01,440
enough prints couldn't believe it

816
00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:04,500
but anyway so now I believe believe in

817
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:08,340
Bigfoot my point is over the years we've

818
00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:09,600
come to see that all of these things

819
00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:12,270
things seem to be related in some way

820
00:43:18,350 --> 00:43:15,320
they have some connection which is

821
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:18,360
outside our normal field of view you

822
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:21,060
know outside of normal reference and I

823
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:23,790
think that investigating that connection

824
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:26,160
investigating trying to trying to learn

825
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,470
trying to discover what that is what

826
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,960
does it mean you know shoot a hundred

827
00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:32,880
years from now it'll just be like old

828
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:35,100
hat every go why couldn't they figure

829
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:37,530
that out right god it was so obvious it

830
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:38,760
was right in front of them they couldn't

831
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:40,830
figure it out

832
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:43,770
but so you know but right now you know

833
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:44,970
we're the crazy ones that are out there

834
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:48,270
looking for this and you know down the

835
00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:49,770
road hopefully we'll we'll have a little

836
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:51,750
star pinned on our on the collar of our

837
00:43:57,110 --> 00:43:52,920
shirt because we figured

838
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,120
what did what did Jan say when Jan

839
00:44:02,900 --> 00:43:59,460
on the executive director of

840
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:02,910
MUFON did you suggest to him that she

841
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:05,010
wanted to go and investigate ghosts and

842
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:07,220
and Bigfoot and other things too as well

843
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:10,170
do you know that now that never entered

844
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:14,130
the discussion hey you know it wasn't it

845
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:16,050
wasn't for that reason that we departed

846
00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:17,850
there were some other reasons that I

847
00:44:21,980 --> 00:44:19,980
don't really want to go no no no no no

848
00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:21,990
that's not that's that's not what I'm

849
00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:25,220
suggesting I was just wondering what he

850
00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:29,160
how he reacted to that suggestion and

851
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:31,470
you didn't okay so now let me reverse

852
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:33,750
lis but let's a bit on the other hand

853
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:36,030
and not the words in Jan's mouth but I

854
00:44:42,110 --> 00:44:39,330
bet if you asked him now how he feels

855
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:42,120
about you know some relationship between

856
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:44,670
paranormal activity and ufology I bet

857
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:46,440
you he'd I bet you he'd say he believes

858
00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:48,420
in uh you know again I can't speak for

859
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:51,840
him but it's only because there's so

860
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,910
much data out there that it's almost

861
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:55,920
undeniable you have to once you see

862
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,390
there's a pattern you get you can't just

863
00:45:02,720 --> 00:44:59,940
ignore it you I mean I saw Lou I'll call

864
00:45:04,610 --> 00:45:02,730
him right now get him on the phone no

865
00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:04,620
come on the vaad he's probably probably

866
00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:07,230
eating dinner no but she has a great guy

867
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:09,390
he's a great guy he's a great guy but

868
00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:11,400
okay so here's what's interesting we

869
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:13,320
just finish up real quick with Jan

870
00:45:20,180 --> 00:45:17,010
he had a literally nuts and bolts siding

871
00:45:22,310 --> 00:45:20,190
that drove him into this world I mean

872
00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:22,320
the the UFO that he and his brother saw

873
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:24,150
when they were young I think they were

874
00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:26,550
in their early teens I don't want to

875
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,590
know quite remember but anyway this

876
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:30,180
thing literally had rivets on it was a

877
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:33,450
UFO you know classic UFO it had legs you

878
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,090
know tripods what-have-you but he said

879
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:38,940
it looked like he saw rivets he saw rust

880
00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:42,570
you know sort of a nuts and bolts UFO so

881
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:45,150
I'm not surprised that through the years

882
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:47,670
he came he approached the subject from

883
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,300
that direction do you know what I mean

884
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:53,280
but then over the years I bet you with a

885
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:55,110
lot of seasoning and experience I bet

886
00:45:59,240 --> 00:45:57,930
you he'd have to admit it maybe not I'd

887
00:46:00,860 --> 00:45:59,250
love to I'd love to get him on the phone

888
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:00,870
sometime and talk to him about that but

889
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,830
yeah

890
00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:03,780
well what okay so what would your

891
00:46:14,660 --> 00:46:12,080
move on starts doing big Bigfoot I'd

892
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:14,670
welcome it I'd say hey welcome you know

893
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:15,390
this is awesome

894
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,210
because you've just multiplied your you

895
00:46:21,350 --> 00:46:19,920
know your work force I mean if we really

896
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:21,360
want to get to the truth of all these

897
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:23,250
things right what we have to do is keep

898
00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:26,460
an open mind and communicate right share

899
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:29,100
information it can't be about oh I

900
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:30,990
discovered this or I'm the one that

901
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:33,390
figured out that you know that that ego

902
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:35,880
thing has to go away and I know that's

903
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,370
been prevalent in the past or a among

904
00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:40,560
some people and certainly not January

905
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:42,360
I'm not I'm not seeing those good what

906
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:43,950
I'm saying and you know who I'm talking

907
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:45,750
about these sorts of sort of researchers

908
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:48,180
who they're on the circuit and they want

909
00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:49,740
to be you know they're preening and

910
00:46:53,570 --> 00:46:51,270
they're kind of walking around like they

911
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:53,580
have all the answers and the truth of

912
00:46:57,230 --> 00:46:55,410
this phenomenon is you don't have all

913
00:47:00,080 --> 00:46:57,240
the answers because the phenomenon is

914
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:00,090
intelligent enough to show you one thing

915
00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:02,250
over here and kind of misdirect you when

916
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:03,750
it's actually something over here that

917
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:05,460
it's up to sort of a sleight of hand

918
00:47:10,270 --> 00:47:07,260
thing like a magician might do it

919
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:10,280
actually I think the phenomenon is

920
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:12,510
intelligent and knows what your next

921
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:14,490
move it is it anticipates your next move

922
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:18,290
and so presents in a certain way

923
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:22,410
possibly to your expectation the the

924
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:26,450
part of Bigfoot I'm still on the fence

925
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:29,130
right I haven't I don't blame you I

926
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:30,930
don't blame ya I'm still on the fence

927
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:36,510
but let's say this what do we do when

928
00:47:48,310 --> 00:47:40,350
you know ET steps off of the craft and

929
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:48,320
it's frigging Chu Ibaka right there

930
00:47:53,810 --> 00:47:51,720
there is that possibility and the other

931
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:53,820
the other part that I find very

932
00:48:01,550 --> 00:47:57,330
interesting and there's been plenty of

933
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:01,560
reports out of out of Russia out of

934
00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:04,470
China different mountainous regions

935
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:06,660
around the world where there have been

936
00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:10,110
lights and UFOs and any Yeti or Bigfoot

937
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:13,140
sighting on the same night in the same

938
00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:18,720
area in the same towns yep yep yep so

939
00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:19,880
what does that mean

940
00:48:24,009 --> 00:48:21,670
but if these things are actually

941
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:24,019
intelligent beasts if you will I don't

942
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:26,450
know I you know I mean it you can you

943
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:29,930
can imagine just about anything right we

944
00:48:33,249 --> 00:48:31,369
have to get to the data to actually

945
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:33,259
measure it but the problem is the data

946
00:48:37,779 --> 00:48:35,930
is elusive doesn't want to be found so

947
00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:37,789
you have to go out there and and hunt

948
00:48:43,180 --> 00:48:40,190
and you know it's funny if you have an

949
00:48:45,579 --> 00:48:43,190
open heart open mind a lot of times

950
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:45,589
that's enough for the phenomenon to

951
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:47,750
present but if you have sort of a

952
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:50,569
selfish this is um now I'm just kind of

953
00:48:53,890 --> 00:48:52,670
like thinking about this right for

954
00:48:56,289 --> 00:48:53,900
people who fail people who were

955
00:48:59,140 --> 00:48:56,299
successful at this the people who are at

956
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,150
it for themselves tend to shut the

957
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:00,880
phenomenon down they kind of create this

958
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,609
psyche psychic barrier that doesn't

959
00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:06,559
allow them to experience the phenomenon

960
00:49:12,249 --> 00:49:09,980
but so this protocol that Steven Greer

961
00:49:14,890 --> 00:49:12,259
came up with a lot of that is sort of

962
00:49:17,259 --> 00:49:14,900
about clearing your mind and clearer and

963
00:49:20,259 --> 00:49:17,269
opening your heart to the possibility of

964
00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:20,269
it right right project projecting the

965
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:23,180
not just thought but actually emotional

966
00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:27,200
energy out there in an open way now

967
00:49:33,009 --> 00:49:30,769
does that open you up to not just good

968
00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:33,019
but evil possibly you know bad entities

969
00:49:39,809 --> 00:49:37,190
bad influences possibly you know there

970
00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:39,819
is a woman out in Pine Mountain who

971
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:44,150
she's had several visits you know not

972
00:49:49,180 --> 00:49:46,130
abduction she doesn't describe abduction

973
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:49,190
but she has had sightings and she's had

974
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:51,230
not just sightings of craft but

975
00:49:55,930 --> 00:49:53,690
sightings of beings on the ground just

976
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:55,940
out in the woods just outside her house

977
00:50:02,680 --> 00:49:59,599
but she kind of is afraid of it and she

978
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:02,690
puts this sort of golden barrier around

979
00:50:08,049 --> 00:50:05,569
her you know when she's meditating and

980
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:08,059
she meditates regularly to protect

981
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:09,650
herself from these things that might

982
00:50:12,249 --> 00:50:10,730
have something to do with her

983
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:12,259
Christianity she was brought up in the

984
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,750
Christian world and so we're trained you

985
00:50:18,009 --> 00:50:16,160
know in that world we're trying to think

986
00:50:19,779 --> 00:50:18,019
of angels and demons right you have

987
00:50:22,809 --> 00:50:19,789
positive and negative right that may be

988
00:50:24,490 --> 00:50:22,819
part of it but maybe there's something

989
00:50:26,799 --> 00:50:24,500
to it you know we know that in the

990
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:26,809
abduction experience it's not always

991
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:28,490
pleasant you know when you get those

992
00:50:33,309 --> 00:50:30,170
little gray guys taken yeah it's not

993
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:33,319
always you know rosy you

994
00:50:35,859 --> 00:50:34,640
I'm sure there are a lot of people out

995
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:35,869
there hearing my words right now and

996
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:37,369
know exactly what I'm talking about

997
00:50:42,189 --> 00:50:39,650
yet there are also other experiences in

998
00:50:45,309 --> 00:50:42,199
abduction where there's a lot of love

999
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:45,319
and light and happiness and a feeling of

1000
00:50:51,189 --> 00:50:48,410
family to the point where the the

1001
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:51,199
experiencer identifies more with the

1002
00:50:55,299 --> 00:50:53,930
alien beings as their family and feel

1003
00:50:57,489 --> 00:50:55,309
like they're just some kind of foreign

1004
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,499
or interloper on this planet kind of

1005
00:51:02,650 --> 00:50:59,839
going through a mission so it's a really

1006
00:51:04,660 --> 00:51:02,660
really interesting phenomenon in the

1007
00:51:07,930 --> 00:51:04,670
abduction well you bring up a really

1008
00:51:11,289 --> 00:51:07,940
good point and and pine mountain for the

1009
00:51:15,849 --> 00:51:11,299
audience pine mountain is about I don't

1010
00:51:20,739 --> 00:51:15,859
know 50 60 miles away just north of us

1011
00:51:24,279 --> 00:51:20,749
in from Burbank up to five freeway it's

1012
00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:24,289
five Ranger Park let's go just go west

1013
00:51:27,309 --> 00:51:26,180
and you'll hit the astronomers use it

1014
00:51:29,259 --> 00:51:27,319
because it's an 85

1015
00:51:31,269 --> 00:51:29,269
I think the 8500 foot pine mountain is

1016
00:51:33,219 --> 00:51:31,279
eighty five hundred feet beautiful huge

1017
00:51:34,930 --> 00:51:33,229
parking lot up there so once a month on

1018
00:51:36,849 --> 00:51:34,940
the new moon you'll go up there and

1019
00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:36,859
there all these astronomers they have

1020
00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:38,390
these telescopes the size of a car

1021
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,430
literally like the size of a car and

1022
00:51:43,689 --> 00:51:42,079
they're looking at the sky and you can

1023
00:51:46,539 --> 00:51:43,699
just walk around and talk to them and

1024
00:51:49,269 --> 00:51:46,549
and do and sky watch all night cool

1025
00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:49,279
place place but at the bayon sergeant at

1026
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,900
the base of that that's where pine

1027
00:51:54,249 --> 00:51:52,400
mountain Club is and it's a little

1028
00:51:57,459 --> 00:51:54,259
development there that somebody built in

1029
00:51:58,809 --> 00:51:57,469
the 70s it's a hot spot you know and

1030
00:52:01,449 --> 00:51:58,819
it's not just this lady that I've

1031
00:52:03,579 --> 00:52:01,459
interviewed who's had sightings what

1032
00:52:04,839 --> 00:52:03,589
brought us out there Mastretta Mia Emma

1033
00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:04,849
straighter and walk went out there

1034
00:52:09,189 --> 00:52:07,640
because we had heard of multiple people

1035
00:52:09,759 --> 00:52:09,199
in town having a sighting on the same

1036
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:09,769
night

1037
00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:12,049
so we basically interviewed three

1038
00:52:15,759 --> 00:52:13,430
different people she was one of them

1039
00:52:17,469 --> 00:52:15,769
three different groups and they were all

1040
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:17,479
on different parts of the town so we

1041
00:52:21,609 --> 00:52:19,130
kind of triangulate the position of this

1042
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:21,619
thing when it came down and all that I

1043
00:52:25,449 --> 00:52:23,690
mean it's it's been uh it's amazing then

1044
00:52:27,370 --> 00:52:25,459
I had other people from the town calling

1045
00:52:28,329 --> 00:52:27,380
me later telling me stories of account

1046
00:52:30,249 --> 00:52:28,339
you know things that had happened to

1047
00:52:34,569 --> 00:52:30,259
them so it's kind of a hot spot

1048
00:52:36,749 --> 00:52:34,579
well our cousin who you've met by the

1049
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:36,759
way they just bought a house up there oh

1050
00:52:42,670 --> 00:52:40,729
really yes we got a place we got a we

1051
00:52:44,490 --> 00:52:42,680
got a place we got a place they've got a

1052
00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:44,500
night what yeah

1053
00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:47,620
we can go up there any time now but back

1054
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:49,780
to my point about Pine Mountain here it

1055
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:52,480
is it's 5060 miles from Los Angeles and

1056
00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:54,850
you would think it's a heavy populated

1057
00:53:02,340 --> 00:52:57,720
area Pine Mountain is surrounded by

1058
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:02,350
forests that I guarantee you the

1059
00:53:09,390 --> 00:53:05,170
majority humans have never set foot on

1060
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:09,400
and when we look at the our country it

1061
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:13,120
seems like we are everywhere there's

1062
00:53:17,180 --> 00:53:14,590
cities everywhere there's towns

1063
00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:17,190
everywhere there's roads everywhere

1064
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:19,870
everything has been explored I don't

1065
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:21,910
know what the percentage is teeth III

1066
00:53:26,670 --> 00:53:23,920
really don't but I would say that the

1067
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:26,680
majority of the United States there's no

1068
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:27,550
footprints

1069
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,450
nobody has wider crossed it yet and now

1070
00:53:37,170 --> 00:53:34,240
again I'm still on the skeptical side of

1071
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:37,180
Bigfoot but there are plenty of places

1072
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:39,430
to go and run and hide and if you don't

1073
00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:41,560
want to be seen you don't have to be

1074
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,080
seen in this country that's that's

1075
00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:46,240
absolute true you know I put a number on

1076
00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:47,860
it maybe ten percent of our country's

1077
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:48,940
developed the rest of its just

1078
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:50,770
wilderness that's right that's you know

1079
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:52,210
I'm just guessing I don't know but

1080
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:55,120
that's what feels like and let's take

1081
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:57,010
let's let's just kind of like use our

1082
00:54:01,680 --> 00:53:58,480
imagination for a second and think about

1083
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:01,690
this thing Bigfoot right okay so what if

1084
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:03,760
it's as and as intelligent as man or

1085
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,190
maybe you know why not why not okay

1086
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:08,160
let's give it the intelligence of a man

1087
00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:11,170
the camouflage the mastery of camouflage

1088
00:54:16,770 --> 00:54:13,540
you know that that like a sniper from

1089
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:16,780
the Marines couldn't do right the scent

1090
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,770
the the the the nose of the the best

1091
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:22,960
canine right the hearing of the best

1092
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:25,750
canine the eyes of an eagle right you

1093
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:27,460
you would not be able to speak up on

1094
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,270
this thing right but yet sometimes

1095
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:33,280
people report that they they kind of

1096
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:34,960
like surprise it you know and it jumps

1097
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:38,260
up and runs so maybe maybe I'm way off

1098
00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:40,210
on that maybe I'm giving a Bigfoot more

1099
00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:43,780
than he's due but I can imagine if this

1100
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:45,700
thing evolves over the millennia out

1101
00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:47,290
there in the wilderness like that with

1102
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:50,320
an intelligence even okay not as

1103
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,330
intelligence man but more intelligent

1104
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:55,200
than an ape let's say maybe that's man

1105
00:55:01,559 --> 00:54:57,910
you know what

1106
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:01,569
what would that be like

1107
00:55:05,099 --> 00:55:04,000
maybe that's what Bigfoot is don't know

1108
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,109
Wow

1109
00:55:11,250 --> 00:55:08,079
and and and back to my point if you

1110
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:11,260
wanted to look even Ted Kaczynski was

1111
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:18,670
able to you know disappear true true so

1112
00:55:22,589 --> 00:55:20,740
if you don't want to be found and you

1113
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:22,599
know you know how to run there you go

1114
00:55:35,579 --> 00:55:30,730
now back to the UFO part where the these

1115
00:55:37,319 --> 00:55:35,589
sightings of Bigfoot and UFO UFOs there

1116
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,329
has been enough of that that has come

1117
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:40,000
together where it seems to be related it

1118
00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:43,150
seems like it could be connected okay

1119
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:44,740
all right that's the appearance but

1120
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:47,470
there's the other side of it there's two

1121
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:49,569
points that that I think are very

1122
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:53,920
interesting one Bigfoot can disappear

1123
00:56:00,299 --> 00:55:58,000
very easily can convey a shrine T of

1124
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:00,309
sightings plenty of sounds but seems to

1125
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:02,980
be able to vanish I don't know I don't

1126
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:04,750
know if that's interdimensional I don't

1127
00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:06,430
know if that's jumping on a ship I don't

1128
00:56:10,859 --> 00:56:08,470
know if that's I I I don't know I don't

1129
00:56:16,279 --> 00:56:10,869
know cloaking I don't know but the other

1130
00:56:19,769 --> 00:56:16,289
part is there hasn't been any offensive

1131
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:19,779
intent from Bigfoot attacking right

1132
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:23,500
killing there hasn't been that part of

1133
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:25,630
it either so it doesn't seem like they

1134
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:28,089
mean any harm except for when they throw

1135
00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:31,529
some rocks once in a while well you know

1136
00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:33,880
kind of a yes and no on that one if you

1137
00:56:39,059 --> 00:56:36,069
look into the literature a little bit

1138
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,069
the Indians you know the indigenous

1139
00:56:43,859 --> 00:56:41,680
tribes here and I don't know the exact

1140
00:56:46,019 --> 00:56:43,869
tribe reported warring with these things

1141
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:46,029
at one time you know stealing women and

1142
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,710
this and that they were coming in and

1143
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:49,839
stealing this tribes women and running

1144
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:52,690
off and they had a literal war going on

1145
00:56:58,049 --> 00:56:55,839
with these Bigfoot and I'm sure somebody

1146
00:57:01,440 --> 00:56:58,059
out there will will you know Twitter UN

1147
00:57:04,289 --> 00:57:01,450
who that what what tribe that was I've

1148
00:57:06,329 --> 00:57:04,299
heard recent accounts of hunters not

1149
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:06,339
necessarily being attacked but surprised

1150
00:57:11,579 --> 00:57:10,180
the the Bigfoot in one case so it's

1151
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:11,589
these two guys in a boat

1152
00:57:17,699 --> 00:57:15,130
okay there fishing and there may be I

1153
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:17,709
don't know a hundred feet off the shore

1154
00:57:22,979 --> 00:57:20,079
and they're going to they're rolling

1155
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:22,989
over to this guy's favorite spot to fish

1156
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:25,839
want to say it was up in Michigan but I

1157
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:28,209
could be wrong anyway so these two guys

1158
00:57:33,269 --> 00:57:31,209
these two brothers and neither one had

1159
00:57:36,509 --> 00:57:33,279
ever had a Bigfoot experience all sudden

1160
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:36,519
this figure out on the shore steps out

1161
00:57:41,429 --> 00:57:39,249
from behind a tree and he's a rock at

1162
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:41,439
the boat a big run a big rock not a

1163
00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:43,209
little rock a big like a book kind of a

1164
00:57:47,999 --> 00:57:45,400
almost a boulder and it goes kerplunk

1165
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:48,009
just off the bow right and one of these

1166
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:50,049
guys is not having you know thinks of

1167
00:57:53,069 --> 00:57:51,880
some guy out there messing with him and

1168
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,079
he's not having anything he starts

1169
00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:55,359
yelling so the thing throws another Rock

1170
00:58:00,859 --> 00:57:57,910
almost hits him again so now the guy's

1171
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:00,869
angry and he rose the boat to shore

1172
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:03,849
jumps out in the water runs over and

1173
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:05,650
then like gets there and it's this

1174
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:10,329
8-foot tall creature that bellows at him

1175
00:58:13,799 --> 00:58:12,729
and and so and the other brother the

1176
00:58:16,349 --> 00:58:13,809
other brothers trying to get out of the

1177
00:58:19,019 --> 00:58:16,359
boat - bellows Adam so loud but this

1178
00:58:21,209 --> 00:58:19,029
scream that the guy said he could feel

1179
00:58:23,849 --> 00:58:21,219
it in his chest resonating and sort of

1180
00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:23,859
paralyzed him and just sort of like set

1181
00:58:28,229 --> 00:58:26,380
him back on his heels when he's now he's

1182
00:58:31,499 --> 00:58:28,239
trying to figure out what the heck he's

1183
00:58:35,579 --> 00:58:31,509
looking at and this thing bum rushes him

1184
00:58:39,569 --> 00:58:35,589
and knocks him on his ass and the other

1185
00:58:42,209 --> 00:58:39,579
guy has a 357 Magnum in his holster but

1186
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,219
is so dumbfounded he doesn't even pull

1187
00:58:46,049 --> 00:58:44,079
it he doesn't know what to do they're

1188
00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:46,059
petrified and this thing's yelling at

1189
00:58:50,429 --> 00:58:48,369
him making all this noise and then runs

1190
00:58:53,969 --> 00:58:50,439
behind some trees and takes off and

1191
00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:53,979
they're just left there in shock and you

1192
00:58:57,809 --> 00:58:55,900
know they're there they're in shock they

1193
00:59:00,209 --> 00:58:57,819
finally get themselves together enough

1194
00:59:02,969 --> 00:59:00,219
to get back home and they go to report

1195
00:59:04,979 --> 00:59:02,979
this thing to the police to the local

1196
00:59:07,289 --> 00:59:04,989
sheriff or whatever it was constable and

1197
00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:07,299
they just sat there in shock babbling

1198
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:09,789
you know being coherent with what the

1199
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,049
what the sheriff described is incoherent

1200
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:13,359
babble about a Bigfoot you know and they

1201
00:59:18,299 --> 00:59:15,130
kept saying you saw a bear Esau bear we

1202
00:59:20,459 --> 00:59:18,309
didn't see a bear wasn't a bear anyway

1203
00:59:22,169 --> 00:59:20,469
well I got into it yeah I'm gonna take a

1204
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:22,179
break I've never heard that story I'm

1205
00:59:24,970 --> 00:59:24,160
gonna take a break right here our guest

1206
00:59:27,790 --> 00:59:24,980
tonight

1207
00:59:29,950 --> 00:59:27,800
marilla talking a little big for talking

1208
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:29,960
UFOs we're doing it all tonight

1209
00:59:35,170 --> 00:59:32,000
it's fade to black I am your host Jimmy

1210
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,180
church and I don't know why but I don't

1211
00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:37,280
have my music what's going on with that

1212
00:59:46,450 --> 00:59:40,990
Steve where's the bumper music is it you

1213
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:46,460
is it used to see it fade to black

1214
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:49,910
it's painted black hi Meryl timmy church

1215
00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:52,640
more with Steve Murillo right after this

1216
00:59:58,410 --> 00:59:58,260
[Music]

1217
01:00:19,430 --> 00:59:58,420
[Applause]

1218
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,300
this is fade to black

1219
01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:23,440
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1220
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:27,100
radio network and kgr a the global radio

1221
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:28,920
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1222
01:00:35,550 --> 01:00:32,230
this is KCRA digital broadcasting

1223
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:35,560
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1224
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:37,870
Arkansas does your basement or

1225
01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:39,970
crawlspace have a damp musty smell well

1226
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:41,740
watch out that's a sign of too much

1227
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:43,900
moisture and not enough ventilation and

1228
01:00:47,850 --> 01:00:45,730
that can mean increased mold growth and

1229
01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:47,860
the build-up of harmful toxins and gases

1230
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:50,140
don't bother with a dehumidifier it just

1231
01:00:54,090 --> 01:00:52,270
circulates the same unhealthy air now

1232
01:00:55,950 --> 01:00:54,100
there's a better way to remove these

1233
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:55,960
dangers and odors it's with the

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computerized wave moisture control unit

1235
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that reduces moisture and expels

1236
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,780
pollutants we replaced our old

1237
01:01:06,030 --> 01:01:03,760
dehumidifier with the wave unit and in

1238
01:01:08,430 --> 01:01:06,040
only three weeks our basement is dry and

1239
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:08,440
the musty smell is gone wave units

1240
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:10,390
require no maintenance no buckets of

1241
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:12,850
water or filters and costs only pennies

1242
01:01:16,530 --> 01:01:14,740
a day to run breathe better live

1243
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:16,540
healthier with an affordable no

1244
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:18,970
maintenance wave unit call eight eight

1245
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:21,310
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1246
01:01:31,070 --> 01:01:24,640
eight seven one seven wabe or visit dry

1247
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:33,220
own solutions

1248
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:46,100
hi this is race Hobbs here repping the

1249
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:47,970
planet and you're listening to my good

1250
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:50,970
friend Jimmy Church fade to black

1251
01:01:58,100 --> 01:01:53,520
on the game changer network and the kgr

1252
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,110
a digital broadcast station this is Toby

1253
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:00,240
Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

1254
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:19,490
radio calm Jimmy Jimmy Church revolution

1255
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:21,930
this is Micah Hanks of the graylien

1256
01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:23,550
report and you're listening to Jimmy

1257
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:25,950
church on fade to black across the globe

1258
01:02:31,220 --> 01:02:27,810
on the game-changer radio network and

1259
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:31,230
the one and only kgr a radio the planet

1260
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[Music]

1261
01:02:50,589 --> 01:02:35,520
[Applause]

1262
01:02:54,670 --> 01:02:53,079
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

1263
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:54,680
the LCB Church our guest tonight Steve

1264
01:03:01,870 --> 01:02:58,160
Murillo the first guest we had on fade

1265
01:03:05,859 --> 01:03:01,880
to black five years ago crazy and he's

1266
01:03:07,539 --> 01:03:05,869
also our last guest tonight Steve

1267
01:03:09,339 --> 01:03:07,549
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1269
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1275
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1276
01:03:35,739 --> 01:03:31,940
it's right there all right Steve I

1277
01:03:38,349 --> 01:03:35,749
wanted to ask you this I want to ask you

1278
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:38,359
about CBD have you have you have you

1279
01:03:45,489 --> 01:03:42,049
jumped on the CBD wagon I have tried it

1280
01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:45,499
yeah love it you know you know I do

1281
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:48,470
karate as you know a lot of times will

1282
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:50,960
injure a finger or you know sprain

1283
01:03:56,289 --> 01:03:53,599
something or you know bruised ribs the

1284
01:03:57,309 --> 01:03:56,299
CBD helps with inflammation so I really

1285
01:03:59,559 --> 01:03:57,319
like it for that reason

1286
01:04:02,529 --> 01:03:59,569
well we've gotta know ken we've got it

1287
01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:02,539
we've got fade to black CBD coffee

1288
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:10,180
coming out seriously yeah yeah man

1289
01:04:14,829 --> 01:04:13,249
scientist you know scientist man you

1290
01:04:16,269 --> 01:04:14,839
know and when they can't you know this

1291
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:16,279
is you know this is what's really

1292
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:19,369
fascinating to me when it comes to the

1293
01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:22,249
pot today is not the pot that you and I

1294
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:24,940
smoked when we went to go see Foghat in

1295
01:04:30,339 --> 01:04:28,400
1977 you know what yeah this weed today

1296
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:30,349
is is a whole nother thing that's going

1297
01:04:41,969 --> 01:04:36,799
on why mad scientist guy so but anyway

1298
01:04:51,099 --> 01:04:41,979
up the concentration of pH man you know

1299
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,109
altering the DNA in those scenes I you

1300
01:04:58,839 --> 01:04:53,359
know III would suppose that that would

1301
01:05:02,229 --> 01:04:58,849
be GMO weed but yeah they figured out a

1302
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:02,239
way to infuse fade to black bland with

1303
01:05:06,410 --> 01:05:03,810
CBD

1304
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:06,420
and and so you just grind up those beans

1305
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:09,210
and you get your dose man and I can't

1306
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,310
wait I cannot wait for this to come out

1307
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:13,920
I do CBD every single day Rita and I

1308
01:05:18,380 --> 01:05:16,170
know why do you what do you like it what

1309
01:05:22,340 --> 01:05:18,390
do you like about it you know it for me

1310
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:22,350
it's more about an alignment you know it

1311
01:05:30,380 --> 01:05:26,640
keeps my body correct the immune system

1312
01:05:32,810 --> 01:05:30,390
like your you know inflammation is so

1313
01:05:34,850 --> 01:05:32,820
much of what ails us you know that

1314
01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:34,860
causes all kinds of other things that

1315
01:05:42,620 --> 01:05:39,750
that happen to you and so I I think the

1316
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:42,630
CBD just keeps me correct you know I do

1317
01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:45,330
a lot of supplements I do I do a lot of

1318
01:05:52,820 --> 01:05:47,040
supplements every single day and I

1319
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:52,830
didn't used to be so disciplined with it

1320
01:06:02,360 --> 01:05:57,090
and so I racked my body you know up and

1321
01:06:04,730 --> 01:06:02,370
down stairs for 4045 years of just

1322
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:04,740
reckless abandon you know didn't really

1323
01:06:09,590 --> 01:06:06,870
care I thought that life lasts forever

1324
01:06:11,030 --> 01:06:09,600
but I was you know just like everybody

1325
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:11,040
else I was getting sick all the time I

1326
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:13,170
always had issues I had this going wrong

1327
01:06:19,310 --> 01:06:15,690
and this going wrong and for the last

1328
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:19,320
five years since I've started seriously

1329
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:22,410
doing supplements every single day it

1330
01:06:29,390 --> 01:06:26,520
corrects I think the damage that I do

1331
01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:29,400
throughout the week lack of sleep I work

1332
01:06:37,820 --> 01:06:33,660
too much I eat whatever I want I drink a

1333
01:06:41,420 --> 01:06:37,830
lot of coffee you know I work I'm a

1334
01:06:44,690 --> 01:06:41,430
workaholic and but I haven't gotten sick

1335
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:44,700
you know I haven't gotten sick yeah yeah

1336
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:47,430
so that exercise gym you got to move

1337
01:06:51,290 --> 01:06:49,920
around a little bit yeah it's just some

1338
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:51,300
of the audience know Steve is always

1339
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:53,130
gonna hey man come hang gliding with me

1340
01:07:00,380 --> 01:06:57,420
man it's so close to you you would love

1341
01:07:03,050 --> 01:07:00,390
it I know I know it's right there now

1342
01:07:06,770 --> 01:07:03,060
okay so let's get back to the discussion

1343
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:06,780
on UFOs you have

1344
01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:09,839
you've been fully investigating this for

1345
01:07:14,569 --> 01:07:12,750
the last 18 years at every level you've

1346
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:14,579
had the some of the strangest and

1347
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:16,050
biggest cases brought to you through

1348
01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:19,410
MUFON through contacts through people

1349
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:23,700
that have reached out to you how how are

1350
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:27,210
we today different than we were 18 years

1351
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:30,810
ago about understanding what UFOs are

1352
01:07:40,339 --> 01:07:35,970
because if you stop and think about it

1353
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:40,349
we've come a long long way from the way

1354
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:43,950
we perceive things 18 20 years ago to

1355
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:45,690
our understanding of the universe and

1356
01:07:55,550 --> 01:07:49,170
physics and and other things today how

1357
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:55,560
has it changed for you good question

1358
01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:56,910
good question

1359
01:08:00,800 --> 01:07:59,099
you know originally it was a it was a

1360
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,810
nuts and bolts thing kind of like what

1361
01:08:05,810 --> 01:08:02,880
Jan horizon's' approach was a bit

1362
01:08:07,700 --> 01:08:05,820
originally you know I you know when I

1363
01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:07,710
first had my first sighting I realized

1364
01:08:13,460 --> 01:08:10,859
okay well this is a technology we're not

1365
01:08:16,849 --> 01:08:13,470
familiar with it's a technology that

1366
01:08:20,180 --> 01:08:16,859
involves zero gravity right the nulling

1367
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:20,190
of gravity so zero inertia free energy

1368
01:08:24,170 --> 01:08:21,150
they're not filling up at the gas

1369
01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:24,180
station so those sorts of things but

1370
01:08:32,289 --> 01:08:27,380
then as as time has gone on

1371
01:08:36,979 --> 01:08:32,299
consciousness comes into play right and

1372
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:36,989
the ability well okay so let's take just

1373
01:08:41,780 --> 01:08:38,460
some of the phenomenon associated with

1374
01:08:44,329 --> 01:08:41,790
ufology with UFOs okay oftentimes when a

1375
01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:44,339
witness has a UFO sighting they get

1376
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:46,020
downloaded what does that mean

1377
01:08:53,209 --> 01:08:49,440
downloaded sounds hokey well there is a

1378
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:53,219
communication that goes on or appears to

1379
01:09:00,740 --> 01:08:56,040
go on between the object and the witness

1380
01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:00,750
but often the communication is not the

1381
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:03,420
witness can't voice I can't put into

1382
01:09:08,059 --> 01:09:05,489
words he knows something but he doesn't

1383
01:09:11,599 --> 01:09:08,069
know what he knows it might come in the

1384
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:11,609
form of very rapid imagery it might not

1385
01:09:15,019 --> 01:09:13,440
even come in that form at all it may be

1386
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,029
just subliminal but they feel like they

1387
01:09:20,599 --> 01:09:17,040
know something or given some sort of a

1388
01:09:23,809 --> 01:09:20,609
message or message is and that that

1389
01:09:25,609 --> 01:09:23,819
that download will be enough to drive

1390
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:25,619
somebody to do some pretty crazy things

1391
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:27,270
like I think I've told you this before

1392
01:09:31,370 --> 01:09:29,850
there was a guy in Scotland who had a

1393
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:31,380
sighting on New Year's Eve when he was

1394
01:09:38,419 --> 01:09:35,279
hammered drunk this triangle came up on

1395
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:38,429
him and he had this experience and when

1396
01:09:42,109 --> 01:09:40,770
it when it left he was stone-cold sober

1397
01:09:44,689 --> 01:09:42,119
everybody else at the party was still

1398
01:09:46,820 --> 01:09:44,699
drunk and he dropped everything he was

1399
01:09:48,169 --> 01:09:46,830
doing because he was a commercial he

1400
01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:48,179
made commercials for a living person

1401
01:09:52,249 --> 01:09:50,699
production guy he dropped when he was

1402
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:52,259
doing and decided he was going to prove

1403
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:54,089
to the world that UFOs were real and he

1404
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,610
flew to the United States and started

1405
01:10:00,379 --> 01:09:59,040
shooting documentary and he came to move

1406
01:10:01,970 --> 01:10:00,389
on when we were move on and he

1407
01:10:03,379 --> 01:10:01,980
interviewed me and he came out to

1408
01:10:05,629 --> 01:10:03,389
Manhattan Beach and her if he'd be here

1409
01:10:10,030 --> 01:10:05,639
as well and I don't know what's happened

1410
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:10,040
to him but my point is that these

1411
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:13,409
episodes can be profound have a profound

1412
01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:15,840
effect on the witness so there's a

1413
01:10:18,830 --> 01:10:16,739
psychic

1414
01:10:21,740 --> 01:10:18,840
so there was my point there there was a

1415
01:10:25,580 --> 01:10:21,750
psychic non non physical communication

1416
01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:25,590
going on no words you know so there's

1417
01:10:32,419 --> 01:10:28,409
that psychic there's always two you know

1418
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:32,429
there's always telekinesis involved in

1419
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,570
in in witnesses being on craft right

1420
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:38,880
they're made to do things like a lot of

1421
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:41,250
these abductees are made to train to

1422
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:43,530
move objects with their mind you know

1423
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:46,199
playing with blocks moving around when

1424
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:47,880
they're kids they're they're encouraged

1425
01:10:52,129 --> 01:10:50,250
to do that as kids I mean there's some

1426
01:10:54,729 --> 01:10:52,139
strange things that go on so what is all

1427
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:54,739
that and then when we watch a UFO move

1428
01:11:02,000 --> 01:10:58,860
it I don't it's too bad that the Frazee

1429
01:11:03,410 --> 01:11:02,010
you UFO was coined so long ago because

1430
01:11:05,930 --> 01:11:03,420
there's nothing flying about these

1431
01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:05,940
things they don't fly like a plane flies

1432
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:09,000
excuse me they moved through our space

1433
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:12,000
but they move the way I see it they

1434
01:11:18,859 --> 01:11:15,170
translate through our time-space in

1435
01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:18,869
infinitesimal steps and I don't know how

1436
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:20,550
to you know to be there to me they're

1437
01:11:27,790 --> 01:11:24,110
time travelers these things I remember

1438
01:11:31,810 --> 01:11:27,800
this was a long time ago

1439
01:11:34,990 --> 01:11:31,820
probably four years ago when before I

1440
01:11:39,190 --> 01:11:35,000
had my sighting out of contact in the

1441
01:11:41,470 --> 01:11:39,200
desert and you were telling me about

1442
01:11:44,770 --> 01:11:41,480
you guys were out doing a sky watch in

1443
01:11:47,290 --> 01:11:44,780
the desert and this light shows up in

1444
01:11:49,540 --> 01:11:47,300
the sky and you guys started to do the

1445
01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:49,550
you know laser communication with it and

1446
01:11:55,780 --> 01:11:52,190
it flashed back and then you did it and

1447
01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:55,790
it flashed back at you and that is

1448
01:12:01,600 --> 01:11:58,760
something that I hadn't experienced yet

1449
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:01,610
and when most people hear about that

1450
01:12:07,330 --> 01:12:04,730
they just don't get it right they did

1451
01:12:09,070 --> 01:12:07,340
they just they just think that we're

1452
01:12:11,980 --> 01:12:09,080
seeing things it's just lights in the

1453
01:12:13,780 --> 01:12:11,990
sky it's explainable you go out there

1454
01:12:16,750 --> 01:12:13,790
right and you go out there and you

1455
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:16,760
experience that for the first time it's

1456
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:19,910
a that's an epiphany that's a low blow

1457
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:22,310
it's a mind-blower and that's the game

1458
01:12:30,910 --> 01:12:26,590
changer and you you tried to express

1459
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:30,920
your Epiphany to me and I wasn't buying

1460
01:12:37,870 --> 01:12:34,490
into it right I mean well I was I was I

1461
01:12:40,570 --> 01:12:37,880
was listening to you right I didn't get

1462
01:12:43,330 --> 01:12:40,580
it and I know how people react when I

1463
01:12:45,210 --> 01:12:43,340
tell them about you know my experiences

1464
01:12:48,730 --> 01:12:45,220
they you know I just don't think that

1465
01:12:51,580 --> 01:12:48,740
they're buying into what I'm selling but

1466
01:12:53,710 --> 01:12:51,590
that was a first-time experience for you

1467
01:12:55,870 --> 01:12:53,720
when you had that communication with

1468
01:12:58,990 --> 01:12:55,880
with that sky wash tell him tell the

1469
01:13:00,850 --> 01:12:59,000
audience about that well we had gone out

1470
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:00,860
there and I you know what year I'll say

1471
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:05,440
it was 2003 Sondra marsh was a

1472
01:13:11,470 --> 01:13:08,000
experiencer who was part of our board at

1473
01:13:14,830 --> 01:13:11,480
the time you know very very psychic very

1474
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:14,840
intuitive you know she had a lot of

1475
01:13:19,150 --> 01:13:17,630
interesting gifts and one of them was

1476
01:13:22,270 --> 01:13:19,160
she could she could pull these things in

1477
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:22,280
and so she volunteered she you know was

1478
01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:23,690
talking about it one time and I said

1479
01:13:27,580 --> 01:13:25,550
well let's go let's you know put a band

1480
01:13:31,570 --> 01:13:27,590
together and let's go let's go out to

1481
01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:31,580
the desert so she agreed and we did so

1482
01:13:36,340 --> 01:13:33,680
we spent the day prepping for this okay

1483
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:36,350
we got there in the in in the early

1484
01:13:40,450 --> 01:13:38,680
afternoon and she brought a bunch of

1485
01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:40,460
spoons and

1486
01:13:45,340 --> 01:13:43,550
works silver and the first thing she was

1487
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:45,350
gonna do we were all gonna bend spoons

1488
01:13:49,930 --> 01:13:47,690
and I'm like okay what's going on here

1489
01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:49,940
this is kind of okey right so she hands

1490
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:53,030
me a fork and she's she's got us in a

1491
01:13:56,170 --> 01:13:54,320
circle and she's talking and she's

1492
01:13:57,729 --> 01:13:56,180
telling us to rub them and we're I'm

1493
01:13:59,740 --> 01:13:57,739
rubbing my fork and I'm looking around

1494
01:14:02,590 --> 01:13:59,750
going what the hell is this you know and

1495
01:14:05,229 --> 01:14:02,600
then sure enough I'm looking at my fork

1496
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:05,239
and it starts to curl and as she's

1497
01:14:08,740 --> 01:14:06,800
talking and then some of the other

1498
01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:08,750
people's same thing and these things got

1499
01:14:15,550 --> 01:14:13,070
contorted mine did like a spiral and I

1500
01:14:17,260 --> 01:14:15,560
thought okay you know maybe you know I

1501
01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:17,270
heated the metal with my hand you know

1502
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:19,070
it wasn't rather hard but I okay the

1503
01:14:23,890 --> 01:14:20,930
heat from my hand you know your mind is

1504
01:14:26,050 --> 01:14:23,900
making up these excuses right and you

1505
01:14:27,970 --> 01:14:26,060
know I just so that kind of put us in

1506
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:27,980
the right frame of mind in other words

1507
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:29,930
it kind of shifted us a little bit right

1508
01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:32,810
then comes nightfall and we go out to

1509
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:34,580
this mound where we're all going to do

1510
01:14:38,979 --> 01:14:37,370
the sky watch and we start when it got

1511
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:38,989
it got dark we're up there we got our

1512
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:40,250
lawn chairs out people have their

1513
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,690
blankets on them so they don't get too

1514
01:14:45,790 --> 01:14:43,280
cold and we're all just staring up the

1515
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:45,800
sky I'm standing the whole time hours go

1516
01:14:50,620 --> 01:14:48,710
by and while we're while we're standing

1517
01:14:52,420 --> 01:14:50,630
as the hours go by she keeps saying

1518
01:14:53,890 --> 01:14:52,430
they're right there and she's pointed a

1519
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:53,900
certain spot in the sky they're right

1520
01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:55,130
there they're watching us they know

1521
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:57,469
we're here and she's going on and on and

1522
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:00,560
on and I'm looking up there I just see a

1523
01:15:06,610 --> 01:15:04,640
few stars you know no big deal and so

1524
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:06,620
sure enough at around 2:30 3:00 o'clock

1525
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:08,810
the guy next to me who's also standing

1526
01:15:13,959 --> 01:15:11,410
up goes whoa it just flashed me I go why

1527
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:13,969
he goes out that that star right there

1528
01:15:17,860 --> 01:15:16,010
just splash me and he had it wasn't a

1529
01:15:19,959 --> 01:15:17,870
laser he had one of those little LED

1530
01:15:23,050 --> 01:15:19,969
lights from REI you know the ones that

1531
01:15:25,209 --> 01:15:23,060
you can light your key get in your house

1532
01:15:27,630 --> 01:15:25,219
right you know it wasn't bright it was

1533
01:15:30,430 --> 01:15:27,640
just a little white LED light right and

1534
01:15:32,979 --> 01:15:30,440
so he could just flash me I go

1535
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:32,989
flash it back so he gives it to boom

1536
01:15:37,780 --> 01:15:35,330
boom and this sure enough I'm looking up

1537
01:15:40,540 --> 01:15:37,790
at this star and the star goes one two

1538
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:40,550
flashes on and off twice and now I'm

1539
01:15:45,190 --> 01:15:43,850
like what give it three so the guy gives

1540
01:15:47,620 --> 01:15:45,200
it three and now everybody's getting

1541
01:15:49,630 --> 01:15:47,630
excited around us and because I'm

1542
01:15:51,729 --> 01:15:49,640
getting loud and he gives it three it

1543
01:15:53,940 --> 01:15:51,739
gives us three back and now everybody

1544
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:53,950
just starts you know nosing this things

1545
01:15:56,910 --> 01:15:55,360
we're 20 people up on that Mound and

1546
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:56,920
they're all we're all screaming and and

1547
01:16:03,420 --> 01:15:59,440
as we're getting excited this thing got

1548
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:03,430
very very bright as almost almost as if

1549
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:05,290
it was coming down and getting closer to

1550
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:06,400
us but I don't think that's what was

1551
01:16:09,930 --> 01:16:07,870
happening I think what it was doing was

1552
01:16:12,210 --> 01:16:09,940
just getting were super bright like oak

1553
01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:12,220
like that like the the iris of an eye

1554
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,440
just opening up with super bright white

1555
01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:17,440
light and everybody's screaming and some

1556
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:19,030
people were like getting scared other

1557
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:20,530
people are saying come get us

1558
01:16:26,970 --> 01:16:23,040
you know and making crazy comments and

1559
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:26,980
then as soon as one of the there was a

1560
01:16:30,210 --> 01:16:28,480
girl next and I can hear her kind of

1561
01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:30,220
what crying not crying but kind of like

1562
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:31,630
oh no you know she was getting scared

1563
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:34,090
and and as soon as that happened the

1564
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:36,010
thing went shoot back down to a little

1565
01:16:41,310 --> 01:16:39,370
Biddy light like a star and it's then it

1566
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:41,320
just moves across the sky I mean like

1567
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:43,600
maybe moves across half the sky and

1568
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:46,480
joins up to these other two stars and

1569
01:16:51,420 --> 01:16:48,550
they form this perfect triangle and I

1570
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:51,430
saw you know a equilateral triangle and

1571
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:53,770
they're all there now you've got this

1572
01:16:59,070 --> 01:16:55,930
geometric shape in the sky of a triangle

1573
01:17:01,730 --> 01:16:59,080
and then the three lights rotate about

1574
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:01,740
the axis they start to turn and

1575
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:04,090
everybody I'm just dumbfounded at this

1576
01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:07,510
point I'm just like what right and you

1577
01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:10,750
know I'm just you know unbelievable and

1578
01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:12,790
then they just sort of sort of as if

1579
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:13,990
like they're getting squeezed together

1580
01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:15,610
and getting dimmer and dimmer and dimmer

1581
01:17:18,330 --> 01:17:17,080
so they're coming together and dimmer

1582
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:18,340
and dimmer and dimmer and then they're

1583
01:17:24,090 --> 01:17:22,110
just disappear into the black and I

1584
01:17:27,450 --> 01:17:24,100
could you know nobody could believe it

1585
01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:27,460
and we are you know I was I was like did

1586
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:29,860
that just happen and everybody's just

1587
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:31,390
looking around and we stood there for

1588
01:17:35,220 --> 01:17:33,610
another hour or two hoping something

1589
01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:35,230
else would happen nothing else happened

1590
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:38,920
for that night and now here's the funny

1591
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:42,370
thing there were two guys who one was my

1592
01:17:46,980 --> 01:17:45,550
predecessor Mark Hunziker who's just

1593
01:17:49,890 --> 01:17:46,990
recently passed away God rest his soul

1594
01:17:53,010 --> 01:17:49,900
he passed away maybe three weeks ago but

1595
01:17:55,650 --> 01:17:53,020
mark was the guy that I replaced he held

1596
01:17:58,350 --> 01:17:55,660
the post for I think six weeks something

1597
01:18:00,240 --> 01:17:58,360
like that anyway he was there and his

1598
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:00,250
buddy Bruce Austin was there now Bruce

1599
01:18:07,319 --> 01:18:02,110
these guys were both board members of

1600
01:18:10,109 --> 01:18:07,329
MUFON and Bruce was

1601
01:18:12,299 --> 01:18:10,119
Air Force intelligence and then was a

1602
01:18:14,669 --> 01:18:12,309
contractor and El Segundo that worked

1603
01:18:17,549 --> 01:18:14,679
for uh let's call it a think-tank

1604
01:18:19,799 --> 01:18:17,559
alright when he came our meetings he was

1605
01:18:21,949 --> 01:18:19,809
never really interested in listening to

1606
01:18:24,029 --> 01:18:21,959
the speaker never really interested in

1607
01:18:25,589 --> 01:18:24,039
anything going on with the meeting he

1608
01:18:27,209 --> 01:18:25,599
just sort of like sat there and mess

1609
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:27,219
with his phone and and wasn't really

1610
01:18:30,389 --> 01:18:28,510
paying attention anything he didn't seem

1611
01:18:32,549 --> 01:18:30,399
interested in the sub he was well he was

1612
01:18:34,739 --> 01:18:32,559
a laughable guy he's a nice guy but he

1613
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:34,749
he just didn't seem into the subject at

1614
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:35,050
all

1615
01:18:40,109 --> 01:18:37,570
and then there was Mark who they were

1616
01:18:42,540 --> 01:18:40,119
close and Mark you know Mark was just

1617
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,550
into partying and you know whatever and

1618
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:44,800
those two guys were on the mound with us

1619
01:18:49,649 --> 01:18:48,550
but they left you know allegedly they

1620
01:18:51,419 --> 01:18:49,659
were there to have you know do this

1621
01:18:53,819 --> 01:18:51,429
thing but they left before all the

1622
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:53,829
fireworks started right so they went

1623
01:18:58,379 --> 01:18:55,570
into their tent went to sleep and they

1624
01:19:01,919 --> 01:18:58,389
missed a huge event in my mind a huge

1625
01:19:03,719 --> 01:19:01,929
event so were they made to leave I don't

1626
01:19:06,329 --> 01:19:03,729
think I don't know I don't that often

1627
01:19:08,909 --> 01:19:06,339
happens in ufology one person or a group

1628
01:19:11,459 --> 01:19:08,919
of people are made to leave or turn the

1629
01:19:12,299 --> 01:19:11,469
other way or you know like my wife when

1630
01:19:13,949 --> 01:19:12,309
I had my sighting

1631
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:13,959
oh she forgot her wine and she had to go

1632
01:19:19,379 --> 01:19:15,369
downstairs to get her glass of wine she

1633
01:19:22,739 --> 01:19:19,389
didn't have the signing so just a lot of

1634
01:19:24,359 --> 01:19:22,749
weird you know kind of cliches in the

1635
01:19:27,779 --> 01:19:24,369
you follow G world happened that night

1636
01:19:31,379 --> 01:19:27,789
and but it was a phenomenal sighting it

1637
01:19:33,599 --> 01:19:31,389
it convinced me that there are some

1638
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:33,609
people who are who can call in this

1639
01:19:37,379 --> 01:19:35,679
phenomenon icon now I refer them into my

1640
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:37,389
mind I call them strange attractors you

1641
01:19:43,349 --> 01:19:40,449
know from the physics theory but well

1642
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:43,359
one of my one of my favorite stories to

1643
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:46,449
tell and since you're with me I'm sure

1644
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:49,300
we've done it on the air before but it's

1645
01:19:57,509 --> 01:19:53,260
just a great story because we you and I

1646
01:19:59,189 --> 01:19:57,519
and Alex and and some fader knots four

1647
01:20:02,869 --> 01:19:59,199
or five years ago a contact in the

1648
01:20:06,989 --> 01:20:02,879
desert man if we didn't summon that

1649
01:20:08,459 --> 01:20:06,999
thing on our patio that night I don't

1650
01:20:11,219 --> 01:20:08,469
know what you would call summoning

1651
01:20:14,129 --> 01:20:11,229
because that's exactly what happened and

1652
01:20:16,139 --> 01:20:14,139
and so almost almost called it out you

1653
01:20:18,299 --> 01:20:16,149
called it out called it out so we're

1654
01:20:20,609 --> 01:20:18,309
standing there there's probably ten of

1655
01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:20,619
us out on the patio

1656
01:20:25,979 --> 01:20:23,380
Rita and I rented this little cabin

1657
01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:25,989
literally in the middle of the desert

1658
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:29,590
and and so we're out on the patio I

1659
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:32,130
don't know it's probably midnight and

1660
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:34,270
it's you myself

1661
01:20:41,850 --> 01:20:38,110
Alex Mastretta Rick Senate was out there

1662
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:41,860
space boy was out there Walter

1663
01:20:57,870 --> 01:20:44,290
was out there and then who was your

1664
01:21:00,450 --> 01:20:57,880
friend that looked like Kenny G you're

1665
01:21:05,310 --> 01:21:00,460
Frank yeah he looked like Kenny G with

1666
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:05,320
the long hair the young guy he rode with

1667
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:07,540
you in the car we went and picked up the

1668
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:14,770
pizzas together okay

1669
01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:17,170
but Kenny cheese so Kenny G's there we

1670
01:21:22,850 --> 01:21:20,380
got Kenny G yeah and we're out of that

1671
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:22,860
we're out on the patio and somebody says

1672
01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:25,900
we'd be cool man if he UFOs you showed

1673
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:31,230
up right now and like at that moment

1674
01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:35,679
somebody says whoa and we all turn and

1675
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:38,440
look and this thing shot up from the

1676
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:42,250
desert floor I would the the best way

1677
01:21:48,510 --> 01:21:44,710
that I can describe it Steve was it was

1678
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,520
a white glowing ball and it just shots

1679
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:50,320
straight up from the desert floor and

1680
01:21:55,649 --> 01:21:52,960
went up to the Stars and lasted well I

1681
01:21:59,370 --> 01:21:55,659
mean now that's what I remember how

1682
01:22:00,780 --> 01:21:59,380
would you describe it yeah like a like a

1683
01:22:03,450 --> 01:22:00,790
shooting star in the opposite direction

1684
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:03,460
but it wasn't it wasn't it no arc it

1685
01:22:10,050 --> 01:22:06,190
went straight up straight up at a high

1686
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:10,060
rate of speed and that you know here's

1687
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:13,090
what's cool about that that's contact in

1688
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:13,750
the desert

1689
01:22:19,859 --> 01:22:16,030
kind of in a nutshell I mean the name

1690
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:19,869
says it all last time we were there last

1691
01:22:23,879 --> 01:22:22,090
year there were a bunch of people with

1692
01:22:26,089 --> 01:22:23,889
these night vision goggles out the

1693
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:26,099
heightened you know the newer versions

1694
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:28,239
what's the latest version it's like

1695
01:22:32,330 --> 01:22:29,860
generations like I think third

1696
01:22:34,180 --> 01:22:32,340
generation report general yeah 10 310

1697
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:34,190
310 3 yes all

1698
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,360
people had them I couldn't believe how

1699
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:37,520
many people had these expensive goggles

1700
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,730
on their head and you know you were

1701
01:22:43,390 --> 01:22:42,320
doing your show this is I think Friday

1702
01:22:46,450 --> 01:22:43,400
night right when you have all the

1703
01:22:48,010 --> 01:22:46,460
different speakers coming and talk and

1704
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:48,020
just say hello right to your audience

1705
01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:48,410
mhm

1706
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:52,040
and they were doing a night vision out

1707
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:53,330
there in the park just in the parking

1708
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:54,530
lot you know what I mean right over

1709
01:22:58,270 --> 01:22:56,320
right over near where you were and

1710
01:22:59,860 --> 01:22:58,280
somebody calls goes hey man you want to

1711
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,870
see some UFOs are doing it right now I'm

1712
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:02,239
like what yeah they're like I've seen a

1713
01:23:06,580 --> 01:23:04,610
bunch I'm like get out of here okay yeah

1714
01:23:08,260 --> 01:23:06,590
sure I'll cope so I go out there and

1715
01:23:10,660 --> 01:23:08,270
there are these people standing around

1716
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:10,670
their car and I go how many of you guys

1717
01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:12,410
seen I'm thinking I'm gonna say five you

1718
01:23:19,630 --> 01:23:16,360
know three the guy goes we're up to 84

1719
01:23:21,580 --> 01:23:19,640
laughing yeah right whatever man

1720
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:21,590
give me the glasses so they hand me the

1721
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,360
glasses and they have the laser thing

1722
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:25,520
and one guy's already looking he goes

1723
01:23:28,570 --> 01:23:27,290
there's one and I'm like and he's

1724
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:28,580
pointing with the laser so it's really

1725
01:23:31,660 --> 01:23:30,110
easy to pick it up with yours right you

1726
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:31,670
can see where he's pointing I look and

1727
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:33,530
sure enough man flying Dorito

1728
01:23:37,630 --> 01:23:36,410
a flying Dorito you know the triangular

1729
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:37,640
with the little lights on it and it's

1730
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:39,110
just moving across the sky like nobody's

1731
01:23:42,729 --> 01:23:39,530
business

1732
01:23:44,350 --> 01:23:42,739
I'm like okay what and then you know

1733
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:44,360
minutes later OOP there's another one

1734
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:46,400
and they were just like everywhere it

1735
01:23:50,590 --> 01:23:47,810
was like freakin it was like Grand

1736
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:50,600
Central Station for ufology I couldn't

1737
01:23:53,950 --> 01:23:52,489
believe it these guys and then they were

1738
01:23:55,570 --> 01:23:53,960
just like putting little hash marks on

1739
01:23:57,130 --> 01:23:55,580
their little piece of paper count them

1740
01:24:01,720 --> 01:23:57,140
it was crazy man

1741
01:24:07,930 --> 01:24:01,730
I don't know and now the okay I'm the

1742
01:24:10,570 --> 01:24:07,940
opposite of the ce-5 protocol okay that

1743
01:24:11,950 --> 01:24:10,580
may work for Greer and and his group

1744
01:24:14,380 --> 01:24:11,960
that's that's fine whatever works for

1745
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:14,390
you is fine right I believe in the

1746
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:18,830
opposite of that no meditation let's

1747
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:23,600
have a quiet moment screw you no man

1748
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:26,239
screw that let's let's let you know

1749
01:24:31,209 --> 01:24:28,880
let's get loud let's have some fun let's

1750
01:24:34,330 --> 01:24:31,219
laugh let's enjoy the moment because

1751
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:34,340
every time that I step into one of those

1752
01:24:41,020 --> 01:24:38,480
groups I want the electricity elevated I

1753
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:41,030
want everybody open and hollering and

1754
01:24:45,729 --> 01:24:44,510
and we have had the most amazing things

1755
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:45,739
go down

1756
01:24:53,670 --> 01:24:48,530
and I've had people come up to me Jimmy

1757
01:24:57,459 --> 01:24:53,680
you can't be like that no I can and I am

1758
01:24:59,320 --> 01:24:57,469
and you will yes yes you can't you know

1759
01:25:01,630 --> 01:24:59,330
yeah you're like you said whatever works

1760
01:25:04,110 --> 01:25:01,640
for you if you have a protocol and that

1761
01:25:06,130 --> 01:25:04,120
works and then do that you know but

1762
01:25:08,590 --> 01:25:06,140
wouldn't it be nicer if you could just

1763
01:25:11,020 --> 01:25:08,600
relax and and be yourself and show up

1764
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:11,030
and go oh have have contact to have

1765
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:12,890
communication have an experience right

1766
01:25:15,610 --> 01:25:14,330
and that's what happens out there that's

1767
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:15,620
what's happening out there so I hope

1768
01:25:19,209 --> 01:25:17,090
some of your listeners gonna join us

1769
01:25:20,290 --> 01:25:19,219
this is gonna be a spy can't wait man

1770
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:20,300
this this weekend is gonna be

1771
01:25:26,590 --> 01:25:23,090
spectacular I know it is unbelievable

1772
01:25:30,910 --> 01:25:26,600
that we are just a few days away from

1773
01:25:32,979 --> 01:25:30,920
Palm Springs I cannot wait I just cannot

1774
01:25:35,050 --> 01:25:32,989
wait it's going to be so much fun let's

1775
01:25:38,620 --> 01:25:35,060
take a break right here I want to stay

1776
01:25:41,860 --> 01:25:38,630
on this conversation though because the

1777
01:25:43,780 --> 01:25:41,870
way that I feel is that when somebody

1778
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:43,790
and I want you I want you to think about

1779
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:46,400
this during the break when somebody says

1780
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:49,850
to you oh man what do we know today that

1781
01:25:55,810 --> 01:25:52,310
we don't already know when it comes to

1782
01:25:58,630 --> 01:25:55,820
UFOs we don't know nothing nothing has

1783
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:58,640
changed ain't anything different now

1784
01:26:01,390 --> 01:25:59,360
okay

1785
01:26:04,450 --> 01:26:01,400
so Steve think about that get a little

1786
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:04,460
angry and I want your response when you

1787
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:07,610
come back because when I hear that my

1788
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:09,920
blood gets a little bit warm I'm not

1789
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:12,710
cool with that because somebody is not

1790
01:26:19,540 --> 01:26:17,090
taking this serious you know I think

1791
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:19,550
they're they're trolling me when they

1792
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:20,960
see say things like that

1793
01:26:30,940 --> 01:26:23,360
we'll be right probably are I know right

1794
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:40,830
[Music]

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01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:44,010
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:47,050
you're listening to faint and black

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01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:49,550
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01:28:57,060 --> 01:28:54,790
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01:29:01,890 --> 01:28:57,070
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01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:01,900
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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01:29:05,220 --> 01:29:03,940
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01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:56,120
welcome back fade to black I'm your

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01:30:02,240 --> 01:29:58,620
stream you Church our guest tonight

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Steve Murillo it's kind of funny our

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1859
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:23,780
shirt and you're gonna get a discount

1860
01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:27,930
visit new manna today so steve back to

1861
01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:30,450
the question when somebody comes up to

1862
01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:32,910
you and says but you know we haven't

1863
01:30:36,590 --> 01:30:35,940
learned anything there's nothing new

1864
01:30:39,710 --> 01:30:36,600
today

1865
01:30:41,810 --> 01:30:39,720
nothing has changed ever when it comes

1866
01:30:43,940 --> 01:30:41,820
to UFOs how do you react to that

1867
01:30:45,860 --> 01:30:43,950
yeah I see what you're saying you get a

1868
01:30:49,130 --> 01:30:45,870
little angry it's it's it's true that

1869
01:30:51,020 --> 01:30:49,140
we've come a long way and well let's

1870
01:30:54,290 --> 01:30:51,030
just take soft disclosure for example

1871
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:54,300
okay that came out in December so for

1872
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:57,210
for one the Pentagon admits hey these

1873
01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,760
things exist we've been studying I'm

1874
01:31:03,170 --> 01:31:01,440
okay so now we have a soft disclosure

1875
01:31:05,180 --> 01:31:03,180
we've been studying something don't know

1876
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:05,190
what it is whatever this thing is we're

1877
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:07,530
studying have can do things that our

1878
01:31:12,380 --> 01:31:09,120
aviation is not capable of doing

1879
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:12,390
velocities turning capabilities a far

1880
01:31:18,620 --> 01:31:15,210
exceed what we have in present you know

1881
01:31:21,740 --> 01:31:18,630
technology they can cloak right they

1882
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:21,750
have the ability to go invisible but not

1883
01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:22,650
to our Fleur

1884
01:31:26,510 --> 01:31:24,390
you know forward-looking infra-red can

1885
01:31:30,020 --> 01:31:26,520
see these things you know I was thinking

1886
01:31:33,050 --> 01:31:30,030
about it you know that's what the the

1887
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:33,060
tic-tac UFO was visible on floor but not

1888
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:35,850
visible to the naked eye for a while

1889
01:31:40,610 --> 01:31:38,730
right that also happened in the competin

1890
01:31:44,150 --> 01:31:40,620
Siddhant back in I think it was oh six

1891
01:31:46,250 --> 01:31:44,160
when I met the Mexican Air Force was out

1892
01:31:48,860 --> 01:31:46,260
there looking for drug runners

1893
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:48,870
crying across the California border and

1894
01:31:52,370 --> 01:31:50,850
they came across some things that

1895
01:31:53,780 --> 01:31:52,380
appeared on their floor and followed him

1896
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:53,790
around for a while so it's not the first

1897
01:31:57,140 --> 01:31:55,530
time that but when yeah when they looked

1898
01:31:58,670 --> 01:31:57,150
outside they couldn't see him but they

1899
01:32:00,320 --> 01:31:58,680
could see him on their floor right so

1900
01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:00,330
it's not the first time

1901
01:32:04,490 --> 01:32:02,400
hey that the Pentagon is funding this

1902
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:04,500
thing right Harry Reid got the the

1903
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:06,810
financing what was it 20 million

1904
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:09,810
for five years was it yeah yeah 22

1905
01:32:14,270 --> 01:32:12,450
million 22 million for five years which

1906
01:32:17,060 --> 01:32:14,280
is a pittance right that's that's like a

1907
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:17,070
spit but it's sort of an admission that

1908
01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:20,930
yes some money has been going towards us

1909
01:32:27,650 --> 01:32:25,260
so those minor admissions will lead to

1910
01:32:30,050 --> 01:32:27,660
you know sort of open the door you know

1911
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:30,060
they crack the door for us and they'll

1912
01:32:33,650 --> 01:32:32,250
lead to larger disclosures down the road

1913
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:33,660
but I think it's sort of a testing of

1914
01:32:38,210 --> 01:32:36,330
the waters sort of like with UFOs do

1915
01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:38,220
they sort of mess with your perception

1916
01:32:43,580 --> 01:32:40,470
they give you a little bit at a time so

1917
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:43,590
that not always sometimes they just give

1918
01:32:47,930 --> 01:32:45,330
it to y'all once and you lose it right

1919
01:32:49,340 --> 01:32:47,940
but I think it's kind of a kind of a

1920
01:32:52,190 --> 01:32:49,350
cat-and-mouse with the conscious

1921
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:52,200
consciousness and I think sort of that's

1922
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:53,730
what the the that's what the government

1923
01:32:56,540 --> 01:32:54,960
is doing or that's what whoever's

1924
01:32:58,220 --> 01:32:56,550
controlling this information is doing

1925
01:33:01,250 --> 01:32:58,230
but I think this is going to lead to

1926
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:01,260
larger disclosures for example you know

1927
01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:04,530
Katherine Austin Fitz former HUD

1928
01:33:08,150 --> 01:33:06,300
accountant you know she was she was

1929
01:33:08,780 --> 01:33:08,160
right there knew where all the money was

1930
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:08,790
going

1931
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:13,620
she thinks that 21 trillion dollars now

1932
01:33:18,050 --> 01:33:15,330
I just listened to an interview with her

1933
01:33:22,130 --> 01:33:18,060
21 trillion dollars has been has gone

1934
01:33:24,770 --> 01:33:22,140
missing trillion not billion 21 trillion

1935
01:33:26,270 --> 01:33:24,780
and that's just what she and her

1936
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:26,280
associates have been able to identify

1937
01:33:32,510 --> 01:33:30,210
you know she has only so much manpower

1938
01:33:35,330 --> 01:33:32,520
work force to put at this thing but 21

1939
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:35,340
trillion that could finance a secret

1940
01:33:39,740 --> 01:33:37,890
space program that could put people on

1941
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:39,750
other planets that we don't know about

1942
01:33:45,260 --> 01:33:43,170
so small disclosure leading to larger

1943
01:33:46,850 --> 01:33:45,270
disclosures down the road so what we

1944
01:33:48,410 --> 01:33:46,860
learned about UFOs that we didn't know

1945
01:33:50,540 --> 01:33:48,420
before we know they exist

1946
01:33:53,870 --> 01:33:50,550
we know they have propulsion systems

1947
01:33:56,090 --> 01:33:53,880
that I bet you we already have in our

1948
01:33:58,190 --> 01:33:56,100
own inventory our own techno we've

1949
01:33:59,540 --> 01:33:58,200
harnessed that technology it's just not

1950
01:34:03,890 --> 01:33:59,550
being given to the public which i think

1951
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:03,900
is literally criminal sorry it's so the

1952
01:34:07,820 --> 01:34:05,730
larger population of the planets being

1953
01:34:11,980 --> 01:34:07,830
kept as slaves basically to this

1954
01:34:15,380 --> 01:34:11,990
information you agree yeah well it's the

1955
01:34:17,420 --> 01:34:15,390
the original and we all had to think

1956
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:17,430
like this because we were trying to

1957
01:34:20,330 --> 01:34:19,530
figure this out but the original

1958
01:34:23,710 --> 01:34:20,340
thoughts

1959
01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:23,720
theories were about these spacecraft

1960
01:34:31,910 --> 01:34:28,260
coming across the galaxy from a distant

1961
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:31,920
star system to here in a traditional

1962
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:35,040
sense right a motor you know somebody at

1963
01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:38,250
a steering wheel a joystick and it's

1964
01:34:42,380 --> 01:34:40,320
very tooling across the universe until

1965
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:42,390
they find planet Earth

1966
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:45,530
clearly that wouldn't be the case I

1967
01:34:52,730 --> 01:34:48,930
bring up a couple of things when we talk

1968
01:34:55,730 --> 01:34:52,740
about the insides of these spacecraft

1969
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:55,740
and there has been enough witnesses out

1970
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:57,360
there describing what they have seen

1971
01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:01,440
what I often asked about were their

1972
01:35:06,230 --> 01:35:03,600
bedrooms right how are they sleeping

1973
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:06,240
where were they eating if you're gonna

1974
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:10,320
spend ten thousand years in a little

1975
01:35:17,150 --> 01:35:14,090
flying saucer in a little tiny room

1976
01:35:20,150 --> 01:35:17,160
there's got to be other thing and now so

1977
01:35:22,460 --> 01:35:20,160
if that is indeed the case then it's not

1978
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:22,470
that they were traveling for ten

1979
01:35:29,330 --> 01:35:25,560
thousand years at close to the speed of

1980
01:35:32,930 --> 01:35:29,340
light in these craft the they got here

1981
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:32,940
easier it's a walk in the park for them

1982
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:35,730
so we have to look at it that way they

1983
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:41,130
it's it's much it's simple it's easy for

1984
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:43,530
them to do and the Astra's and light

1985
01:35:46,970 --> 01:35:45,600
travel and therefore that's why I think

1986
01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:46,980
their time time travelers

1987
01:35:51,890 --> 01:35:50,060
these things there and if if

1988
01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:51,900
multi-dimensions exist and I think

1989
01:35:55,070 --> 01:35:54,450
they're multi-dimensional do you is

1990
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:55,080
there

1991
01:36:01,340 --> 01:35:58,560
now when you say time travelers are

1992
01:36:04,370 --> 01:36:01,350
these time travelers et or these time

1993
01:36:06,140 --> 01:36:04,380
travelers us you know the whole thing

1994
01:36:08,690 --> 01:36:06,150
about it's us coming back to help

1995
01:36:10,850 --> 01:36:08,700
ourselves well I you know that's

1996
01:36:13,580 --> 01:36:10,860
possible of course but I think it's a

1997
01:36:16,430 --> 01:36:13,590
little bit egocentric to think that it's

1998
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:16,440
just us it excludes the possibility that

1999
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:18,570
there's just these these other beings

2000
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:20,250
out there they could possibly be you

2001
01:36:24,710 --> 01:36:21,810
know lightyears ahead of us in terms of

2002
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:24,720
technology you know what I mean

2003
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:28,080
it Sally oh yeah you know well let's

2004
01:36:33,650 --> 01:36:30,570
look at Rendlesham you know that's the

2005
01:36:34,010 --> 01:36:33,660
story right that that craft was us from

2006
01:36:36,110 --> 01:36:34,020
the few

2007
01:36:39,020 --> 01:36:36,120
you're coming back to help us and or to

2008
01:36:43,190 --> 01:36:39,030
help them and I don't know man do you

2009
01:36:46,610 --> 01:36:43,200
buy that it's a it's it's a it's a

2010
01:36:49,610 --> 01:36:46,620
possibility what I would think is that

2011
01:36:51,770 --> 01:36:49,620
if a time traveler came from you know of

2012
01:36:54,350 --> 01:36:51,780
us if we came back to visit us from

2013
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:54,360
10,000 years in the future we wouldn't

2014
01:37:00,490 --> 01:36:58,410
even recognize what humans are right I'm

2015
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:00,500
not even sure if we would have bodies

2016
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:03,330
yeah you know you know what I mean

2017
01:37:07,850 --> 01:37:05,040
so I I don't know I don't know if we

2018
01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:07,860
could communicate or relate if you don't

2019
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:11,040
have all our hair what Steve if you went

2020
01:37:16,910 --> 01:37:14,250
back if you went back 150 years and you

2021
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:16,920
went back to the Old West but you were

2022
01:37:23,110 --> 01:37:19,710
yourself right Steve Marilla today and

2023
01:37:26,270 --> 01:37:23,120
you went back how would you communicate

2024
01:37:28,430 --> 01:37:26,280
you you know you wouldn't be a but they

2025
01:37:31,790 --> 01:37:28,440
wouldn't you guys wouldn't know there

2026
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:31,800
would be a total Dyke down there will be

2027
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:34,560
something lost in the translation there

2028
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:36,900
you know now let's talk about a 10,000

2029
01:37:43,730 --> 01:37:40,710
year you know time travel visit I'm not

2030
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:43,740
so sure that we would even recognize or

2031
01:37:49,130 --> 01:37:46,980
be able to relate to now going back to

2032
01:37:53,060 --> 01:37:49,140
Rendlesham and also to this recent

2033
01:37:55,330 --> 01:37:53,070
Pentagon budding up that they seem to

2034
01:37:59,390 --> 01:37:55,340
you know be doing with the UFO community

2035
01:38:01,120 --> 01:37:59,400
you were in the Marines you know you

2036
01:38:05,210 --> 01:38:01,130
were fighter pilot you graduated from

2037
01:38:08,690 --> 01:38:05,220
the the Nate the US Naval Academy

2038
01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:08,700
but you're also a ufologist and you ran

2039
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:12,390
you know MUFON LA for 13 years do you

2040
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:14,370
trust the Pentagon when they're coming

2041
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:17,460
forward with UFO stuff right now of

2042
01:38:21,650 --> 01:38:18,560
course not

2043
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:21,660
not at all listen they've been studying

2044
01:38:27,470 --> 01:38:24,930
this phenomenon well here's what I think

2045
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:27,480
okay so I think you know Roswell

2046
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:29,040
happened we got a hold of that

2047
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:29,760
technology

2048
01:38:35,780 --> 01:38:32,400
it was sequestered you know working

2049
01:38:39,010 --> 01:38:35,790
groups formed around it and then the

2050
01:38:43,730 --> 01:38:39,020
intelligence community sort of you know

2051
01:38:46,730 --> 01:38:43,740
isolated that subject so so well that

2052
01:38:47,939 --> 01:38:46,740
not even port like hire higher-ups in

2053
01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:47,949
the intelligence community

2054
01:38:52,859 --> 01:38:50,320
about it and that went on and created

2055
01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:52,869
the secret space program or a breakaway

2056
01:39:00,660 --> 01:38:56,590
civilization as we like to talk about it

2057
01:39:03,959 --> 01:39:00,670
meanwhile the normal day-to-day military

2058
01:39:07,020 --> 01:39:03,969
is handling this information as well but

2059
01:39:08,879 --> 01:39:07,030
doesn't have the confirmation of Roswell

2060
01:39:11,370 --> 01:39:08,889
doesn't know that it actually happens so

2061
01:39:12,959 --> 01:39:11,380
they're still treating it seriously

2062
01:39:15,089 --> 01:39:12,969
because it's not something they

2063
01:39:16,589 --> 01:39:15,099
understand and they continue to you know

2064
01:39:18,209 --> 01:39:16,599
first they give you you know Project

2065
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:18,219
Blue Book which of course is should have

2066
01:39:22,919 --> 01:39:21,010
been called Project snow job but you

2067
01:39:25,169 --> 01:39:22,929
know this is PR move and they kept that

2068
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:25,179
going and then project blue Blue Book is

2069
01:39:29,939 --> 01:39:27,400
closed right never happen you know it's

2070
01:39:32,759 --> 01:39:29,949
solved there there are no UFOs but of

2071
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:32,769
course you fault UFOs continue to

2072
01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:35,110
penetrate our skies on a daily basis and

2073
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:36,940
they're dealing with that right how do

2074
01:39:41,219 --> 01:39:38,170
they deal with it you know

2075
01:39:44,489 --> 01:39:41,229
disinformation ridicule the whole nine

2076
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:44,499
yards the whole CIA my job that they've

2077
01:39:51,029 --> 01:39:47,199
been perpetrating on the public for all

2078
01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:51,039
these years since the early 50s so what

2079
01:39:58,219 --> 01:39:54,249
we why why would why would we be

2080
01:40:00,930 --> 01:39:58,229
expected to to trust the Pentagon today

2081
01:40:03,419 --> 01:40:00,940
yeah we should you know definitely I

2082
01:40:05,969 --> 01:40:03,429
love elizondo's cover story he's a

2083
01:40:10,410 --> 01:40:05,979
disgruntled employee and that's why he's

2084
01:40:13,949 --> 01:40:10,420
coming out of blah blah blah I mean oh

2085
01:40:16,379 --> 01:40:13,959
my god come on give me a better story

2086
01:40:18,089 --> 01:40:16,389
than that but you know at the same time

2087
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:18,099
I like the guy because at least they've

2088
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:20,380
got he seems like a likable guy and he's

2089
01:40:25,709 --> 01:40:23,650
approachable you know so I'm glad they

2090
01:40:28,350 --> 01:40:25,719
chose him to be their mouthpiece for a

2091
01:40:31,049 --> 01:40:28,360
while but the cover story cracks me up

2092
01:40:36,449 --> 01:40:31,059
what do you mean they chose him you

2093
01:40:38,009 --> 01:40:36,459
think the Pentagon is letting is he

2094
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:38,019
under instruction what and when you say

2095
01:40:42,839 --> 01:40:40,690
chose yeah yeah yeah he's part of the

2096
01:40:45,959 --> 01:40:42,849
soft he's part of the disclosure project

2097
01:40:48,209 --> 01:40:45,969
he's going to be the first little pebble

2098
01:40:50,699 --> 01:40:48,219
rolling down the hill and then you know

2099
01:40:52,319 --> 01:40:50,709
he'll he'll end up doing something else

2100
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:52,329
and somebody else will step forward and

2101
01:40:57,239 --> 01:40:53,920
then it'll be that guy and you know

2102
01:41:01,080 --> 01:40:57,249
bigger news and blah blah blah so I

2103
01:41:02,879 --> 01:41:01,090
think he was the first the first step in

2104
01:41:05,070 --> 01:41:02,889
you know they're testing the waters are

2105
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:05,080
going to see how the public responds to

2106
01:41:12,419 --> 01:41:08,080
see what comes of this information being

2107
01:41:14,339 --> 01:41:12,429
put out there and you know so far it's

2108
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,349
been fairly innocuous nothing's happened

2109
01:41:19,979 --> 01:41:17,199
yeah completely innocuous now what do

2110
01:41:21,780 --> 01:41:19,989
you what do you make of that because if

2111
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:21,790
they were testing the waters well the

2112
01:41:26,129 --> 01:41:24,489
waters didn't even ripple then ripple

2113
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:26,139
yeah you know think about the public

2114
01:41:31,020 --> 01:41:28,210
we've been you know programmed one not

2115
01:41:32,370 --> 01:41:31,030
to believe in UFOs but two you know

2116
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:32,380
throughout the 60s

2117
01:41:37,050 --> 01:41:34,000
starting with Star Trek and all these

2118
01:41:40,050 --> 01:41:37,060
different shows Star Wars and boom boom

2119
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:40,060
boom boom our psyche has been programmed

2120
01:41:44,370 --> 01:41:43,110
to accept this possibility right

2121
01:41:48,510 --> 01:41:44,380
desensitized

2122
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:48,520
you know when it finally plays out hater

2123
01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:50,290
really here and by the way they look

2124
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:52,270
like you know eight-foot-tall reptilians

2125
01:41:56,609 --> 01:41:54,730
and ever he's like oh yeah okay what's

2126
01:42:00,419 --> 01:41:56,619
for dinner yeah I saw that in lost in

2127
01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:00,429
space with dr. Smith thought on Star

2128
01:42:05,070 --> 01:42:02,260
Trek when Kirk had to fight that

2129
01:42:07,399 --> 01:42:05,080
reptilian so one of the best scenes ever

2130
01:42:16,339 --> 01:42:07,409
in the history of television

2131
01:42:25,290 --> 01:42:22,200
and we can't but the the the world

2132
01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:25,300
didn't collapse right he had the condom

2133
01:42:32,540 --> 01:42:26,920
report and he had the Brookings

2134
01:42:36,689 --> 01:42:32,550
Institute and and the original 1953

2135
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:36,699
report that when all of these things

2136
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:39,610
were suggesting at that time about a

2137
01:42:45,620 --> 01:42:41,530
breakdown in civilization and Wall

2138
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:45,630
Street economic collapse and lawlessness

2139
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:48,610
religions everything would just you know

2140
01:42:56,370 --> 01:42:51,730
completely fall apart if the reveal came

2141
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:56,380
out that et was here but the reveal did

2142
01:42:59,850 --> 01:42:58,570
happen it's certainly I mean you can't

2143
01:43:03,330 --> 01:42:59,860
get better coverage than what the mass

2144
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:03,340
media did but right but we're still here

2145
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:05,409
we're still here and not much is going

2146
01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:07,330
on no one's talking about two weeks

2147
01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:09,820
after the disclosure or the event no

2148
01:43:14,339 --> 01:43:11,710
one's talking about it you know when it

2149
01:43:14,970 --> 01:43:14,349
when it finally when it finally really

2150
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:14,980
hits

2151
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:17,440
and you know the president finally says

2152
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:20,200
or whoever are you know profound leader

2153
01:43:25,230 --> 01:43:23,290
is at the time says hey you know guess

2154
01:43:27,630 --> 01:43:25,240
what they're here they've been here you

2155
01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:27,640
know we've been hiding them because this

2156
01:43:33,780 --> 01:43:31,540
or that the people that I think have

2157
01:43:36,930 --> 01:43:33,790
suffered the most or the the abductees

2158
01:43:38,930 --> 01:43:36,940
the experiencers because you know it

2159
01:43:42,150 --> 01:43:38,940
hasn't been pleasant for those people

2160
01:43:44,340 --> 01:43:42,160
you know a lot of psychological trauma a

2161
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:44,350
lot of physical trauma

2162
01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:47,050
you know just about well I don't want to

2163
01:43:53,790 --> 01:43:50,350
get into it but a lot of women I know

2164
01:43:56,250 --> 01:43:53,800
who have been abductees and are now in

2165
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:56,260
their later years they've all had female

2166
01:44:00,270 --> 01:43:57,730
problems hysterectomies and things

2167
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:00,280
because of their experiences so it

2168
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:04,000
hasn't been pleasant for them and you

2169
01:44:08,610 --> 01:44:06,040
know a lot of them have had psycho

2170
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:08,620
psychotic breaks things like that they

2171
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:11,110
don't deal well with crowds they have

2172
01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:13,890
all kinds of strange you know little

2173
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:16,840
neuroses because of the experiences so

2174
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:19,290
not all not all some have adapted in and

2175
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:23,710
and and have done fine but those people

2176
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:25,870
you know if the government owes an

2177
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:27,910
apology to any group of people it will

2178
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:29,710
have to owe an apology to them and say

2179
01:44:35,730 --> 01:44:32,050
hey we knew about this we just couldn't

2180
01:44:39,060 --> 01:44:35,740
protect you we couldn't stop it or if

2181
01:44:43,050 --> 01:44:39,070
you believe mylabs we knew about this

2182
01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:43,060
and we were also you know sort of like

2183
01:44:48,030 --> 01:44:45,580
doing mock experiments to see how you'd

2184
01:44:51,150 --> 01:44:48,040
respond to that as well there's really

2185
01:44:52,740 --> 01:44:51,160
kind of messed up so I don't know how

2186
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:52,750
that's going to go Jim I don't but the

2187
01:44:59,160 --> 01:44:54,730
smaller it's a very small fraction of

2188
01:45:01,050 --> 01:44:59,170
the of the population well the the my

2189
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:01,060
lab side of things are the super

2190
01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:05,280
soldiers MKULTRA a lot of these

2191
01:45:11,490 --> 01:45:09,640
clandestine CIA projects that not only

2192
01:45:13,170 --> 01:45:11,500
were instituted here in the United

2193
01:45:15,870 --> 01:45:13,180
States but certainly outside of the

2194
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:15,880
country where laws don't apply here

2195
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:19,510
inside of the United States it appears

2196
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:22,510
that this has been going on for a while

2197
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:26,140
and I think that part of this can be put

2198
01:45:32,069 --> 01:45:28,570
back into the UFO question too

2199
01:45:35,399 --> 01:45:32,079
as well we're in an abduction which is

2200
01:45:38,430 --> 01:45:35,409
all too real some underground bays where

2201
01:45:40,890 --> 01:45:38,440
you're taken to and and the examination

2202
01:45:43,890 --> 01:45:40,900
table could all have been just a

2203
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:43,900
fantastic movie set set up by the

2204
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:48,250
government to to share that experience

2205
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:51,520
of abduction so you can go out because

2206
01:45:56,430 --> 01:45:54,130
the experience is real so you go out and

2207
01:46:00,689 --> 01:45:56,440
you report about this experience either

2208
01:46:03,540 --> 01:46:00,699
you're crazy or there are those that are

2209
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:03,550
gonna support you on this but it wasn't

2210
01:46:09,209 --> 01:46:06,159
an et experience at all and it was

2211
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:09,219
something that was staged right right

2212
01:46:12,899 --> 01:46:09,730
right

2213
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:12,909
but and how nefarious is that to

2214
01:46:18,899 --> 01:46:15,280
perpetrate something like that on you

2215
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:18,909
know an unsuspecting an unwitting person

2216
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:21,610
you know just a regular person like you

2217
01:46:25,589 --> 01:46:22,090
and me

2218
01:46:28,350 --> 01:46:25,599
well whoa which is which I think is part

2219
01:46:32,879 --> 01:46:28,360
of the point of disclosure because if

2220
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:32,889
this starts to surface in an

2221
01:46:36,209 --> 01:46:34,810
uncontrollable way we're now the

2222
01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:36,219
government's can have to go back and

2223
01:46:41,069 --> 01:46:38,710
answer a lot of questions and and and

2224
01:46:43,140 --> 01:46:41,079
certainly speak the truth about the lies

2225
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:43,150
that they have been dealing with for the

2226
01:46:47,580 --> 01:46:45,520
last seventy years and then there's the

2227
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:47,590
other parts of this puzzle that have to

2228
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:51,520
come into play like MKULTRA and and and

2229
01:46:58,530 --> 01:46:55,780
Mockingbird and in the mylabs program

2230
01:47:01,470 --> 01:46:58,540
and possibly even you know the super

2231
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:01,480
soldiers and the other things that that

2232
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:04,320
are connected because they are connected

2233
01:47:09,899 --> 01:47:07,690
yeah all of it all the controlled

2234
01:47:13,319 --> 01:47:09,909
clandestinely you know we're paying for

2235
01:47:16,620 --> 01:47:13,329
it but they're doing it paying forward

2236
01:47:19,620 --> 01:47:16,630
with our taxes it's like crazy you're

2237
01:47:22,020 --> 01:47:19,630
paying for a guy to to come into your

2238
01:47:23,850 --> 01:47:22,030
house and take you away and perform

2239
01:47:25,490 --> 01:47:23,860
these experiments on you and then you

2240
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:25,500
know plop you back in your bed and

2241
01:47:33,180 --> 01:47:29,010
drugged up or who knows what well yeah

2242
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:33,190
now which is I think is one of the most

2243
01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:34,570
important things that we can speak about

2244
01:47:42,030 --> 01:47:38,860
because disclosure like I said the

2245
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:42,040
waters didn't even ripple okay well

2246
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:44,800
that's right part of it but the waters

2247
01:47:51,150 --> 01:47:48,370
would ripple if everything else came it

2248
01:47:53,540 --> 01:47:51,160
came to surface that some of these alien

2249
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:53,550
abductions were staged that you know

2250
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:57,790
American citizens were kidnapped out of

2251
01:48:04,410 --> 01:48:00,000
their own homes or a campground and

2252
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:04,420
subjected to this this mind torture and

2253
01:48:13,050 --> 01:48:08,050
then placed back and and then I don't

2254
01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:13,060
think that the reaction would be as as

2255
01:48:18,810 --> 01:48:16,150
civil as it was through the disclosure

2256
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:18,820
that happened back in December of 2017

2257
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:23,830
yeah I agree no writing well I don't see

2258
01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:24,880
that's the problem it's a small

2259
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:26,320
population so you wouldn't really have

2260
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:28,960
riots but you'd you're definitely gonna

2261
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:30,490
have some angry people with some

2262
01:48:40,740 --> 01:48:34,960
lawsuits head in somebody's way well do

2263
01:48:42,660 --> 01:48:40,750
you think that if there was a document

2264
01:48:45,420 --> 01:48:42,670
dump you know something with Wikipedia

2265
01:48:49,290 --> 01:48:45,430
some you know anonymous goes and hacks

2266
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:49,300
into the CIA's computers or the NASA

2267
01:48:55,050 --> 01:48:51,250
computers and they they get a bunch of

2268
01:49:01,560 --> 01:48:55,060
footage right real I mean real footage

2269
01:49:05,580 --> 01:49:01,570
of et area51 real craft real situations

2270
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:05,590
real documents that that can't be

2271
01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:08,290
questioned now we've got a situation

2272
01:49:13,710 --> 01:49:11,140
that is a little bit different than gun

2273
01:49:18,210 --> 01:49:13,720
camera footage you know by an aircraft

2274
01:49:19,290 --> 01:49:18,220
carrier in San Diego right definitely

2275
01:49:21,810 --> 01:49:19,300
definitely

2276
01:49:23,460 --> 01:49:21,820
yeah then it's then it's real man it's

2277
01:49:25,620 --> 01:49:23,470
it's all out there in the public and

2278
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:25,630
everybody knows about it how would that

2279
01:49:31,020 --> 01:49:29,290
change how would that change our

2280
01:49:34,140 --> 01:49:31,030
religion would there would religion fall

2281
01:49:36,510 --> 01:49:34,150
apart I don't I don't think so I don't

2282
01:49:39,980 --> 01:49:36,520
think so what do you think well I'm

2283
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:39,990
surprised that the Vatican didn't react

2284
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:42,610
through all of this mass media at least

2285
01:49:47,070 --> 01:49:45,730
have a statement now they didn't come

2286
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:47,080
out with a statement that's right they

2287
01:49:52,260 --> 01:49:49,750
did not they've come out with statements

2288
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:52,270
in the in the past about et the

2289
01:49:59,070 --> 01:49:55,840
possibility of et but not surrounding

2290
01:50:03,570 --> 01:49:59,080
soft disclosure 2017 what do you think

2291
01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:03,580
the next step is when it comes to what

2292
01:50:12,330 --> 01:50:05,560
is happening now and I'm referring to I

2293
01:50:18,570 --> 01:50:12,340
mean could TTS a really I mean not

2294
01:50:20,609 --> 01:50:18,580
really but actually produce more videos

2295
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:20,619
that allegedly are released from the

2296
01:50:25,169 --> 01:50:23,650
Pentagon as well it's possible

2297
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:25,179
you know they got egg on their face with

2298
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:27,489
that balloon the mylar balloon photo

2299
01:50:30,570 --> 01:50:28,480
right um

2300
01:50:32,850 --> 01:50:30,580
no yes so their credibility is sort of

2301
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:32,860
whacked out I think it's going to come

2302
01:50:38,820 --> 01:50:35,770
from Bigelow I think that they're going

2303
01:50:41,010 --> 01:50:38,830
to start talking about not maybe maybe a

2304
01:50:44,339 --> 01:50:41,020
metal they've recovered or some sort of

2305
01:50:46,109 --> 01:50:44,349
a material that can't be manufactured on

2306
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,119
this planet something that's laid down

2307
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:48,400
at the molecular level in layers

2308
01:50:51,540 --> 01:50:50,110
composites something like that that we

2309
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:51,550
could we don't have the ability to do

2310
01:50:57,810 --> 01:50:55,210
and some kind of disclosure like that

2311
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,820
here we have a physical thing that

2312
01:51:01,740 --> 01:50:59,920
everybody can study and this is this is

2313
01:51:04,189 --> 01:51:01,750
it we just can't make it we can look at

2314
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:04,199
it but we don't not make it yet well

2315
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:07,570
this is what I want from Bigelow okay

2316
01:51:12,030 --> 01:51:10,810
and I'm being straight this is what I

2317
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:12,040
want from Bigelow

2318
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:14,730
I want like three questions answered

2319
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:19,449
number one the materials that you

2320
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:22,330
allegedly have and you know we haven't

2321
01:51:25,379 --> 01:51:23,770
had a press conference we haven't seen

2322
01:51:27,540 --> 01:51:25,389
any materials we haven't seen any

2323
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:27,550
evidence of anything but the reports are

2324
01:51:33,899 --> 01:51:30,489
that he's got a warehouse in Las Vegas

2325
01:51:36,839 --> 01:51:33,909
funded by the Pentagon to study these

2326
01:51:40,229 --> 01:51:36,849
materials okay so let's say that he does

2327
01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:40,239
then the materials that you have were

2328
01:51:47,790 --> 01:51:43,780
they a from Roswell were they from a

2329
01:51:50,609 --> 01:51:47,800
crashed retrieved craft by the military

2330
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:50,619
and then is supplied to you directly

2331
01:51:57,149 --> 01:51:53,830
from the craft number one number two are

2332
01:51:58,859 --> 01:51:57,159
the materials from civilians where

2333
01:52:02,250 --> 01:51:58,869
civilians say that they went out on

2334
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:02,260
their farm found some trace evidence and

2335
01:52:07,979 --> 01:52:05,050
then sent it to you or three are these

2336
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:07,989
materials just whatever that you can

2337
01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:09,730
identify and

2338
01:52:15,090 --> 01:52:11,500
to figure out what it is but you don't

2339
01:52:17,210 --> 01:52:15,100
know where they came from I want one of

2340
01:52:20,190 --> 01:52:17,220
those questions answered or all three

2341
01:52:22,290 --> 01:52:20,200
because that that is what is most

2342
01:52:26,130 --> 01:52:22,300
important here because and I'll tell you

2343
01:52:32,930 --> 01:52:26,140
right now if Bigelow has in his

2344
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:32,940
warehouse a piece of a control panel a

2345
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:36,730
seat how about a helmet how about a

2346
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:40,239
piece of clothing from et yeah I'm

2347
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:43,360
talking about the real deal stuff then

2348
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:46,960
he should go public I don't care what

2349
01:52:53,490 --> 01:52:49,690
your oath is I don't care what your

2350
01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:53,500
agreement is you become the biggest hero

2351
01:53:00,540 --> 01:52:57,760
in the history of mankind that's what

2352
01:53:04,620 --> 01:53:00,550
you do at that point to come forward and

2353
01:53:07,790 --> 01:53:04,630
go here is a piece of a seat the air it

2354
01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:07,800
is here it is here here's the dashboard

2355
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:12,580
right right right this is et technology

2356
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:15,310
here it is here's a chunk here's the

2357
01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:18,850
whole of the ship right that's right and

2358
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:21,430
that that's what you do and anything

2359
01:53:27,090 --> 01:53:25,210
else beyond that then it's just whatever

2360
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:27,100
then it was something that was found in

2361
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:29,410
the field it was something that somebody

2362
01:53:33,900 --> 01:53:32,500
found it was an archaeological dig and

2363
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:33,910
it's some strange looking piece of

2364
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:37,090
material you know but if it came from a

2365
01:53:43,710 --> 01:53:39,730
craft and was sent to him to investigate

2366
01:53:46,710 --> 01:53:43,720
that go public with it be a martyr you

2367
01:53:48,750 --> 01:53:46,720
know and I'm serious I'm serious I know

2368
01:53:50,729 --> 01:53:48,760
you are but could you imagine he's like

2369
01:53:53,460 --> 01:53:50,739
you know yeah but you know he's looking

2370
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:53,470
at a billion dollar industry who cares

2371
01:53:57,780 --> 01:53:55,810
do you know I know he would be and if

2372
01:54:02,310 --> 01:53:57,790
anybody has the guts to do it I think

2373
01:54:06,420 --> 01:54:02,320
it's him but you know be in that he is a

2374
01:54:09,450 --> 01:54:06,430
business man the inclination is to

2375
01:54:11,220 --> 01:54:09,460
control the information to his benefit

2376
01:54:14,190 --> 01:54:11,230
for as long as possible and then finally

2377
01:54:18,930 --> 01:54:14,200
releases his you know what 5,000 years

2378
01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:18,940
from now $5,000 phenom I know know if he

2379
01:54:24,630 --> 01:54:21,670
if he stepped up right now and

2380
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,640
brought out the dashboard the Statue of

2381
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:26,800
Liberty would be replaced with the

2382
01:54:32,630 --> 01:54:29,410
Statue of Bigelow yeah you would be the

2383
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:32,640
most famous man in the history of

2384
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:36,970
everything right so I so you know you

2385
01:54:40,860 --> 01:54:38,740
know why Jim I'm after the propulsion

2386
01:54:42,900 --> 01:54:40,870
system you know what I mean I'm the most

2387
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:42,910
famous man right right right

2388
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:47,440
so so it says to me that he doesn't have

2389
01:54:54,690 --> 01:54:51,970
that stuff that's my point okay it's

2390
01:54:57,630 --> 01:54:54,700
just something that he has but it's just

2391
01:54:59,700 --> 01:54:57,640
so small it's just like again it's a

2392
01:55:02,730 --> 01:54:59,710
thing the size of your thumb that's

2393
01:55:04,710 --> 01:55:02,740
layered molecular Li that has an isotope

2394
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:04,720
that you couldn't produce here you know

2395
01:55:08,850 --> 01:55:07,030
something like that that you you just

2396
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:08,860
can't produce it he doesn't know how it

2397
01:55:11,370 --> 01:55:09,520
was made

2398
01:55:13,410 --> 01:55:11,380
here it is we can look at it through an

2399
01:55:16,380 --> 01:55:13,420
electron microscope you know the best

2400
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:16,390
that we have and and this is it but we

2401
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:18,130
don't know how to make it maybe it's

2402
01:55:25,230 --> 01:55:22,090
something like and and there's probably

2403
01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:25,240
tons of tons of that on this planet for

2404
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:28,510
meteorites things that have crashed to

2405
01:55:33,210 --> 01:55:30,370
this you know that that have come from

2406
01:55:36,300 --> 01:55:33,220
the solar system over the years there's

2407
01:55:39,690 --> 01:55:36,310
probably tons of that I am referring to

2408
01:55:43,230 --> 01:55:39,700
what is it that he has does he have a

2409
01:55:45,330 --> 01:55:43,240
chunk of he's of a flying saucer that

2410
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:45,340
way I think we're gonna find out soon

2411
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:48,370
well then I bet you with and I would say

2412
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:50,260
before the end of this year you're gonna

2413
01:55:54,060 --> 01:55:52,210
hear something from Bigelow that's my

2414
01:55:55,890 --> 01:55:54,070
guess I don't know why I'm saying that

2415
01:55:58,260 --> 01:55:55,900
I'm just thinking that's where it's

2416
01:56:01,080 --> 01:55:58,270
headed you know he stepped out last May

2417
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:01,090
May with the 60-minute interview and

2418
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:03,430
great interviews because it was he stuck

2419
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his neck out manatee he said I don't

2420
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care right know what you know aren't you

2421
01:56:11,460 --> 01:56:09,040
afraid that other people are gonna make

2422
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I don't care and he has you know he has

2423
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:12,940
the guns to say that you know what I

2424
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,130
mean he has he's controlling the

2425
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:18,000
situation so he has the guns to say that

2426
01:56:24,540 --> 01:56:21,370
you know someone like me who's in the

2427
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,550
regular world who has to do business you

2428
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:26,560
know I can't I can't I can't proselytize

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on the corner about et when I'm trying

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to sell multi-million dollar homes you

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know I mean if people are not going to

2432
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let me list their house but

2433
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he's into it so that's cool that there

2434
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would be a religion based on him if he

2435
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:45,310
came forward I'm just saying this might

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already be already take a break right

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02:01:16,690 --> 02:01:13,120
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02:01:21,470 --> 02:01:16,700
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2527
02:01:22,729 --> 02:01:21,480
welcome back fade to black I mean you'll

2528
02:01:25,700 --> 02:01:22,739
see me Church our guest tonight Steve

2529
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:25,710
Murillo talking about all things you a

2530
02:01:31,970 --> 02:01:29,730
potent ight somehow we we tied a big

2531
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:31,980
foot back to your photos once again

2532
02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:34,530
Steve I want to uh I want to ask you

2533
02:01:43,790 --> 02:01:39,980
this the not to kick a dead horse but

2534
02:01:46,540 --> 02:01:43,800
when it when it when it comes to a tip

2535
02:01:49,220 --> 02:01:46,550
right and the Pentagon and there's this

2536
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:49,230
twenty two million dollars over five

2537
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:51,330
years which is nothing when we talk

2538
02:01:54,770 --> 02:01:53,130
about twenty one trillion dollars being

2539
02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:54,780
missing twenty two million dollars and

2540
02:01:59,570 --> 02:01:56,940
the Pentagon said that there wasn't

2541
02:02:01,130 --> 02:01:59,580
anything you know they needed to spend

2542
02:02:02,690 --> 02:02:01,140
the money elsewhere and so forth okay

2543
02:02:06,410 --> 02:02:02,700
all right I'll go with that

2544
02:02:09,860 --> 02:02:06,420
but this is this is where my mind

2545
02:02:13,460 --> 02:02:09,870
wanders I want your opinion when it

2546
02:02:16,340 --> 02:02:13,470
comes to a tip and you got a picture

2547
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:16,350
this is what the this is what the

2548
02:02:21,170 --> 02:02:18,570
community has been led to believe that

2549
02:02:23,210 --> 02:02:21,180
there's a secret government program

2550
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:23,220
going on at the Pentagon called a tip

2551
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:25,440
and somebody's running through the

2552
02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:27,930
Pentagon right some Air Force dude hey

2553
02:02:32,900 --> 02:02:30,480
man I got this UFO report and I got this

2554
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:32,910
footage what do we do ah take it down to

2555
02:02:39,500 --> 02:02:34,650
a tip oh yeah that's right

2556
02:02:42,110 --> 02:02:39,510
okay so you run down the hall and you

2557
02:02:45,850 --> 02:02:42,120
run into the a tip offices and you give

2558
02:02:49,550 --> 02:02:45,860
them this UFO report and a tip is now

2559
02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:49,560
going going to investigate and a tip

2560
02:02:56,810 --> 02:02:53,790
team is is on the case right wait a

2561
02:03:00,950 --> 02:02:56,820
minute I want to know I want to know

2562
02:03:04,900 --> 02:03:00,960
from Lois how many people worked under

2563
02:03:12,710 --> 02:03:04,910
him at a tip I bet you the number is

2564
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:12,720
zero I bet you okay and that this twenty

2565
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:17,040
two million dollars okay wasn't anywhere

2566
02:03:22,340 --> 02:03:18,810
inside of the Pentagon there was no a

2567
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:22,350
tip computer sitting on an a tip desk in

2568
02:03:29,089 --> 02:03:26,610
an office with an a tip write know that

2569
02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:29,099
twenty-two million dollars went to

2570
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:34,840
Bigelow right so are we are we you know

2571
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:36,010
to go and investigate these

2572
02:03:41,580 --> 02:03:38,650
metamaterials okay fine okay but as far

2573
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:41,590
as a tip goes and having offices inside

2574
02:03:45,870 --> 02:03:43,690
of the Pentagon and Lewis Elizondo

2575
02:03:49,379 --> 02:03:45,880
sitting there you know in his a tip

2576
02:03:51,629 --> 02:03:49,389
office that didn't exist that's that's

2577
02:03:54,930 --> 02:03:51,639
my gut feeling I have nothing to go on

2578
02:03:57,569 --> 02:03:54,940
here but that's I just don't think that

2579
02:04:01,020 --> 02:03:57,579
that is the case but the community has

2580
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:01,030
been led to believe that that is what

2581
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:04,090
you know happened and and so I would

2582
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:07,770
like to you know have Lewis answer that

2583
02:04:15,870 --> 02:04:12,130
cause your staff but I bet you answer is

2584
02:04:18,180 --> 02:04:15,880
zero there was no staff you know there

2585
02:04:22,129 --> 02:04:18,190
you know a tip wasn't that kind of

2586
02:04:24,959 --> 02:04:22,139
situation there wasn't a big crew of

2587
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:24,969
investigators looking at these videos

2588
02:04:29,879 --> 02:04:27,010
and these reports and interviewing

2589
02:04:32,490 --> 02:04:29,889
pilots and talking right it just didn't

2590
02:04:37,129 --> 02:04:32,500
well guys know it didn't exist no no it

2591
02:04:39,899 --> 02:04:37,139
was Elizondo maybe who answered - maybe

2592
02:04:42,270 --> 02:04:39,909
somebody above him in the Pentagon and

2593
02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:42,280
Harry Reid you know and how do we get

2594
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:43,630
this much yeah and that's a really good

2595
02:04:48,689 --> 02:04:46,210
possibility Jim yeah how do we just give

2596
02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:48,699
this money to big low so he can study

2597
02:04:54,180 --> 02:04:51,190
this metamaterial how do we do that okay

2598
02:04:56,399 --> 02:04:54,190
let's create this little charade

2599
02:04:59,250 --> 02:04:56,409
Eliz long yeah but then why bring out

2600
02:05:01,709 --> 02:04:59,260
Elizondo as a why key why not just keep

2601
02:05:04,020 --> 02:05:01,719
a secret you see on say yeah why just

2602
02:05:07,919 --> 02:05:04,030
why come forward on you know whatever

2603
02:05:10,589 --> 02:05:07,929
December was it December 16th yes so why

2604
02:05:12,810 --> 02:05:10,599
come forward on that day yeah you know

2605
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:12,820
why do all that you know if you're gonna

2606
02:05:15,540 --> 02:05:14,290
if you're gonna keep something if you

2607
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:15,550
want to keep a secret don't tell anybody

2608
02:05:20,430 --> 02:05:18,570
right so why bring it up just leave it

2609
02:05:22,290 --> 02:05:20,440
so I don't know man

2610
02:05:23,790 --> 02:05:22,300
I don't know but I agree with you I

2611
02:05:25,410 --> 02:05:23,800
don't think there's just little office

2612
02:05:27,540 --> 02:05:25,420
where all these dudes were you know

2613
02:05:32,069 --> 02:05:27,550
studying UFO pictures and looking at

2614
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:32,079
footage no you know the I told you that

2615
02:05:37,919 --> 02:05:34,810
story I think a long time ago when I was

2616
02:05:40,049 --> 02:05:37,929
at Cherry Point we happen to be there

2617
02:05:41,939 --> 02:05:40,059
for a cross-country and we're at the O

2618
02:05:42,149 --> 02:05:41,949
club which is what we love to do at the

2619
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:42,159
end

2620
02:05:47,609 --> 02:05:44,650
flight right there is a Friday night and

2621
02:05:51,509 --> 02:05:47,619
to my buddy's role in there from Cherry

2622
02:05:53,909 --> 02:05:51,519
Point and they were f4 guys f4 phantom

2623
02:05:58,679 --> 02:05:53,919
drivers and they had been infected to

2624
02:06:00,750 --> 02:05:58,689
chase a UFO and that day that's what

2625
02:06:02,339 --> 02:06:00,760
happened that day so this is the story

2626
02:06:05,069 --> 02:06:02,349
they told us we're getting drunk and we

2627
02:06:06,419 --> 02:06:05,079
all laughed at him that they were vector

2628
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:06,429
to chase this object

2629
02:06:11,580 --> 02:06:09,010
they took gun camera footage of it it

2630
02:06:13,859 --> 02:06:11,590
sped away at a high rate of speed of

2631
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:13,869
course right but they got footage of it

2632
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:16,239
they were they were made made to land

2633
02:06:22,140 --> 02:06:19,599
and then made to go to a hangar that

2634
02:06:24,029 --> 02:06:22,150
nobody used and made the sit in a little

2635
02:06:25,319 --> 02:06:24,039
office you know inside the hangar

2636
02:06:26,429 --> 02:06:25,329
they're always a little little offices

2637
02:06:28,859 --> 02:06:26,439
there they were made to sit there and

2638
02:06:32,100 --> 02:06:28,869
wait until this guy from Washington

2639
02:06:34,290 --> 02:06:32,110
showed up in a little Learjet got off

2640
02:06:36,659 --> 02:06:34,300
the jet got the gun camera footage

2641
02:06:38,189 --> 02:06:36,669
through this briefcase and then looked

2642
02:06:39,929 --> 02:06:38,199
at him said this never happened you guys

2643
02:06:42,959 --> 02:06:39,939
can't talk about this got back on the

2644
02:06:44,819 --> 02:06:42,969
plane and left ok so that guy had to

2645
02:06:47,429 --> 02:06:44,829
take that stuff somewhere that footage

2646
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:47,439
right he had a mission somebody got that

2647
02:06:53,459 --> 02:06:51,760
footage and so you know the my point is

2648
02:06:55,409 --> 02:06:53,469
the military has a way of dealing with

2649
02:06:58,259 --> 02:06:55,419
this information they always have I

2650
02:07:02,459 --> 02:06:58,269
don't know what it is probably a lot of

2651
02:07:03,989 --> 02:07:02,469
guys don't know right so but it exists

2652
02:07:05,609 --> 02:07:03,999
and it has existed so where does that

2653
02:07:08,339 --> 02:07:05,619
all where's all that footage end up

2654
02:07:08,939 --> 02:07:08,349
maybe in a little room that nobody knows

2655
02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:08,949
about

2656
02:07:15,149 --> 02:07:11,260
with some guys that nobody ever sees or

2657
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:15,159
talked to I don't know man it's really

2658
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:16,719
interesting but I guarantee you 22

2659
02:07:20,819 --> 02:07:18,159
million bucks it's not going to take

2660
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:20,829
care of much they might pay for two guys

2661
02:07:25,649 --> 02:07:22,630
for a couple years and that's about it

2662
02:07:29,850 --> 02:07:25,659
you know do research get equipment well

2663
02:07:33,149 --> 02:07:29,860
how does the gun camera footage work in

2664
02:07:36,679 --> 02:07:33,159
that is it rolling all the time or do

2665
02:07:43,500 --> 02:07:36,689
you have to turn it on you turn it on

2666
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:43,510
okay so in the case with these guys how

2667
02:07:51,620 --> 02:07:48,400
long do you think the the footage was no

2668
02:07:56,010 --> 02:07:51,630
idea I would guess maybe just minutes

2669
02:07:59,170 --> 02:07:56,020
okay now when we react we

2670
02:08:03,970 --> 02:07:59,180
yeah go ahead we go back to this footage

2671
02:08:06,570 --> 02:08:03,980
that these three pieces of video that

2672
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:06,580
have been you know around on the web

2673
02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:10,490
some of it has been around for for 10

2674
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:13,000
years you know it's it's not like I

2675
02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:15,050
anyway when you look at this footage

2676
02:08:21,340 --> 02:08:18,320
this footage is only seconds long right

2677
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:21,350
a minute here but there's footage before

2678
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:26,810
and after that is not there right and

2679
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:31,010
like this go fast video well where's the

2680
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:33,890
footage before this clip and where's the

2681
02:08:38,740 --> 02:08:37,010
footage after and and what were the

2682
02:08:41,500 --> 02:08:38,750
results what were the pilots saying

2683
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:41,510
before and what were the pilots saying

2684
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:44,810
after and did they come to any

2685
02:08:49,990 --> 02:08:48,050
conclusions because that's I think

2686
02:08:53,950 --> 02:08:50,000
that's the the best part of the footage

2687
02:08:58,390 --> 02:08:53,960
is the before and after stuff right

2688
02:09:01,060 --> 02:08:58,400
right yeah because well and and maybe

2689
02:09:03,130 --> 02:09:01,070
maybe what they saw is classified you

2690
02:09:04,090 --> 02:09:03,140
know maybe maybe they're not disclosing

2691
02:09:06,070 --> 02:09:04,100
or they didn't want you to know that

2692
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:06,080
this thing went from sixty thousand they

2693
02:09:10,450 --> 02:09:08,480
didn't want you to see it go from sixty

2694
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:10,460
thousand feet to fifteen foot above the

2695
02:09:15,460 --> 02:09:12,290
deck in seconds right right because what

2696
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:15,470
would that look like you know what would

2697
02:09:19,300 --> 02:09:17,930
it mean if you see a craft that can

2698
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:19,310
outperform everything in the inventory

2699
02:09:24,070 --> 02:09:22,400
just you know and and when you see

2700
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:24,080
something streaked off kind of like that

2701
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:26,210
thing we saw in the desert right when

2702
02:09:32,980 --> 02:09:29,690
you see something do those things it it

2703
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:32,990
blows it blows it just blows the lid

2704
02:09:37,210 --> 02:09:34,400
right off the top of your head usually

2705
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:37,220
it totally destroys any construct of

2706
02:09:42,010 --> 02:09:39,110
physics that you ever had you know what

2707
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:42,020
I mean so and maybe that's what they're

2708
02:09:47,970 --> 02:09:44,690
keeping from not only the general public

2709
02:09:51,730 --> 02:09:47,980
but other countries who knows you know

2710
02:09:54,090 --> 02:09:51,740
well then the possibility exists let's

2711
02:09:56,770 --> 02:09:54,100
talk about like the gimbal footage right

2712
02:10:00,850 --> 02:09:56,780
and you're watching that thing twist and

2713
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:00,860
turn and it looks like the object is

2714
02:10:06,130 --> 02:10:03,170
turning when it could very well be just

2715
02:10:08,210 --> 02:10:06,140
the the gimbal itself is turning the

2716
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:08,220
object is not turning

2717
02:10:13,790 --> 02:10:10,530
it's just the you know the the gimbal

2718
02:10:17,570 --> 02:10:13,800
FLIR is turning but anyway after that

2719
02:10:20,410 --> 02:10:17,580
footage just maybe I'm saying there's

2720
02:10:23,540 --> 02:10:20,420
the possibility of the pilot then saying

2721
02:10:24,590 --> 02:10:23,550
yeah that f-18 sure did look strange in

2722
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:24,600
the FLIR didn't it

2723
02:10:30,890 --> 02:10:29,610
right I mean I mean what if it's in

2724
02:10:33,590 --> 02:10:30,900
other words it was fake and they're

2725
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:33,600
perpetrating a fraud Wow now the footage

2726
02:10:38,630 --> 02:10:36,450
is real but you know you don't hear the

2727
02:10:42,050 --> 02:10:38,640
before and after you know the

2728
02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:42,060
possibility before you know the clip

2729
02:10:50,180 --> 02:10:47,040
before the clip starts okay man let's go

2730
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:50,190
ahead and vector in on these f-18s in

2731
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:54,960
this in this dollar you know even like

2732
02:11:00,080 --> 02:10:56,960
your civilian right you don't even know

2733
02:11:01,790 --> 02:11:00,090
how pilots talk but you know right now

2734
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:01,800
you're demonstrating that you know they

2735
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:03,360
should be speaking in a professional

2736
02:11:08,210 --> 02:11:05,730
manner and they be talking about like

2737
02:11:09,700 --> 02:11:08,220
you know come left turn heading you know

2738
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:09,710
zero nine zero blah blah blah you know

2739
02:11:14,570 --> 02:11:12,330
you know I'm going in your uh you know

2740
02:11:17,330 --> 02:11:14,580
I'm in your off you know they're using

2741
02:11:20,330 --> 02:11:17,340
military commands like what bothered me

2742
02:11:23,030 --> 02:11:20,340
about that footage is the pilots are

2743
02:11:25,580 --> 02:11:23,040
very very casual they're not using

2744
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:25,590
professional vernacular they're going

2745
02:11:30,830 --> 02:11:28,320
dude look at that you know like it's

2746
02:11:32,030 --> 02:11:30,840
just it it's not it just something's not

2747
02:11:36,650 --> 02:11:32,040
right about that

2748
02:11:39,230 --> 02:11:36,660
like if you're my wingman and you know

2749
02:11:41,180 --> 02:11:39,240
pick a call sign you know what would I

2750
02:11:45,710 --> 02:11:41,190
call if you had to have the callsign Jim

2751
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:45,720
what would it be my callsign would be a

2752
02:11:52,730 --> 02:11:50,370
coyote all right okay okay coyote I'm

2753
02:11:54,170 --> 02:11:52,740
going in you know stay high boom you

2754
02:11:56,060 --> 02:11:54,180
know and then okay I'm pulling on you

2755
02:11:57,500 --> 02:11:56,070
know I got I got 3G I got it in the

2756
02:12:00,350 --> 02:11:57,510
camera foot you know I'm talking I'm

2757
02:12:02,420 --> 02:12:00,360
talking to you about what I'm doing and

2758
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,430
what I'm gonna do next so you can

2759
02:12:06,620 --> 02:12:04,320
respond right and you're gonna say I'm

2760
02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:06,630
staying high you know okay Raven I got

2761
02:12:09,260 --> 02:12:07,260
you I got you

2762
02:12:12,020 --> 02:12:09,270
you know I got you my in my I got shed

2763
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:12,030
twelve o'clock okay it's moving left

2764
02:12:15,890 --> 02:12:13,730
you know right you know whatever

2765
02:12:18,830 --> 02:12:15,900
you're gonna be you're gonna be speaking

2766
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:18,840
to me in a jargon that's probably akin

2767
02:12:21,890 --> 02:12:20,850
to eight air combat right we're going to

2768
02:12:24,110 --> 02:12:21,900
be using aircon

2769
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:24,120
that commands probably right these guys

2770
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:25,890
are like what bothers me about the

2771
02:12:29,390 --> 02:12:27,840
footage and I haven't heard I haven't

2772
02:12:31,399 --> 02:12:29,400
spoken any other pilots about this so

2773
02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:31,409
maybe it's perfectly normal now in the

2774
02:12:33,979 --> 02:12:33,090
Navy but because it's been thirty years

2775
02:12:38,270 --> 02:12:33,989
from you right

2776
02:12:40,130 --> 02:12:38,280
but dude what is that like you know

2777
02:12:42,020 --> 02:12:40,140
doesn't make any sense to me it's

2778
02:12:44,300 --> 02:12:42,030
bothering me that whole thing bothers

2779
02:12:47,209 --> 02:12:44,310
what's bothering you about it are you

2780
02:12:49,010 --> 02:12:47,219
saying are you suggesting that the those

2781
02:12:52,220 --> 02:12:49,020
aren't pilots and that's those are

2782
02:12:53,930 --> 02:12:52,230
actors it's Doug I'm not saying that I'm

2783
02:12:56,899 --> 02:12:53,940
just saying that their vernacular is

2784
02:12:58,160 --> 02:12:56,909
awful loose and maybe that's the way it

2785
02:13:01,100 --> 02:12:58,170
is I'm not saying that they're not

2786
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:01,110
that's not real footage I can't say that

2787
02:13:06,370 --> 02:13:03,090
for a fact right I'm just saying it's a

2788
02:13:09,410 --> 02:13:06,380
little it's off that's a little off and

2789
02:13:11,090 --> 02:13:09,420
what you know again maybe maybe in that

2790
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:11,100
sort of a situation but see here's the

2791
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:14,400
thing about Navy pilots okay they we

2792
02:13:20,209 --> 02:13:17,040
train from beginning to end literally

2793
02:13:23,090 --> 02:13:20,219
every flight from first primary flight

2794
02:13:25,479 --> 02:13:23,100
through advance strike training every

2795
02:13:27,649 --> 02:13:25,489
single flight is all about pressure

2796
02:13:29,780 --> 02:13:27,659
emergencies the first thing they do you

2797
02:13:31,220 --> 02:13:29,790
take off and the instructor fails your

2798
02:13:32,959 --> 02:13:31,230
landing gear and says okay you got fill

2799
02:13:34,490 --> 02:13:32,969
landing gear and did it and you've got

2800
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:34,500
to go through the procedure whole flight

2801
02:13:37,580 --> 02:13:36,090
for an hour and a half or whatever it is

2802
02:13:39,740 --> 02:13:37,590
every training mission you do hundreds

2803
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:39,750
of these things it's just one failure

2804
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:41,610
after the next and one emergency after

2805
02:13:46,939 --> 02:13:43,890
the next and everything's very precise

2806
02:13:49,010 --> 02:13:46,949
and there's no room for a casual

2807
02:13:51,620 --> 02:13:49,020
conversation and nobody talks like

2808
02:13:53,060 --> 02:13:51,630
there's no chat hey how's your day going

2809
02:13:56,930 --> 02:13:53,070
up there buddy you know there's none of

2810
02:13:58,310 --> 02:13:56,940
that stuff right but you know again it's

2811
02:14:01,490 --> 02:13:58,320
been 30 years and maybe things have

2812
02:14:04,570 --> 02:14:01,500
changed with the budget cuts they've

2813
02:14:07,250 --> 02:14:04,580
kind of gotten loose I don't know I

2814
02:14:11,689 --> 02:14:07,260
don't know there's something whacky

2815
02:14:12,220 --> 02:14:11,699
about that Steve Steve this is fade to

2816
02:14:17,270 --> 02:14:12,230
black

2817
02:14:19,580 --> 02:14:17,280
this is me Jimmy yeah really say what

2818
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:19,590
are you trying to say here see are you

2819
02:14:24,380 --> 02:14:22,050
saying that you you you watch the

2820
02:14:27,290 --> 02:14:24,390
footage the first time you listen to

2821
02:14:29,090 --> 02:14:27,300
this and you rolled your eyes is that

2822
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:29,100
what you're saying that's what I'm

2823
02:14:32,660 --> 02:14:29,730
saying

2824
02:14:35,149 --> 02:14:32,670
yeah I rolled my and and not it's not at

2825
02:14:35,419 --> 02:14:35,159
the visual because the visuals sort of

2826
02:14:37,219 --> 02:14:35,429
been

2827
02:14:39,979 --> 02:14:37,229
you know sort of a knock you sort of but

2828
02:14:41,179 --> 02:14:39,989
it's interesting but the yeah the the

2829
02:14:43,339 --> 02:14:41,189
chatter is wrong

2830
02:14:46,429 --> 02:14:43,349
it just doesn't it's it's just wrong to

2831
02:14:48,379 --> 02:14:46,439
me feels gonna got level it's wrong then

2832
02:14:51,049 --> 02:14:48,389
again I could be wrong I could be wrong

2833
02:14:53,719 --> 02:14:51,059
but you know I don't lie you know yeah I

2834
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:53,729
don't know the the BS meter is kind of

2835
02:14:59,449 --> 02:14:56,010
kind of at a half or maybe even 70%

2836
02:15:01,689 --> 02:14:59,459
right now with that but again I could be

2837
02:15:12,799 --> 02:15:09,709
the I I agree but this is why I agree

2838
02:15:14,839 --> 02:15:12,809
not necessarily for your reasons I go

2839
02:15:17,479 --> 02:15:14,849
back to but it's interesting that we

2840
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:17,489
came to the same conclusion though but I

2841
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,820
go back to what I want to know what the

2842
02:15:25,939 --> 02:15:22,800
pilots were talking about and saying

2843
02:15:29,500 --> 02:15:25,949
before and after the footage I want to

2844
02:15:34,189 --> 02:15:29,510
know exactly what was going on there and

2845
02:15:36,319 --> 02:15:34,199
that would then lean to the conversation

2846
02:15:38,810 --> 02:15:36,329
that was happening in the middle the

2847
02:15:41,959 --> 02:15:38,820
right where and and with with the

2848
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:41,969
visuals that were going on and and the

2849
02:15:44,779 --> 02:15:43,679
fact that that part of the footage has

2850
02:15:47,509 --> 02:15:44,789
not been released

2851
02:15:49,219 --> 02:15:47,519
that's where I start to question things

2852
02:15:52,699 --> 02:15:49,229
because I think everything would be

2853
02:15:56,779 --> 02:15:52,709
answered either its its its et and it's

2854
02:15:59,029 --> 02:15:56,789
UFOs or it is not right but the

2855
02:16:02,750 --> 02:15:59,039
questions will be answered and they've

2856
02:16:06,399 --> 02:16:02,760
left that hanging out there and that's I

2857
02:16:09,229 --> 02:16:06,409
know that there's more footage you know

2858
02:16:12,169 --> 02:16:09,239
there's more to the clip than what we

2859
02:16:14,839 --> 02:16:12,179
are seeing you know it's it's longer and

2860
02:16:16,489 --> 02:16:14,849
it's more complete they released this

2861
02:16:18,259 --> 02:16:16,499
little tiny clip in the middle with

2862
02:16:20,719 --> 02:16:18,269
these guys going wow what the bleep is

2863
02:16:25,209 --> 02:16:20,729
that well you know what Jim I just had

2864
02:16:28,429 --> 02:16:25,219
an obvious thought okay so let's say you

2865
02:16:31,009 --> 02:16:28,439
record this information right you want

2866
02:16:33,769 --> 02:16:31,019
to disclose to the public but the the

2867
02:16:36,139 --> 02:16:33,779
the radio chatter is is confidential

2868
02:16:39,169 --> 02:16:36,149
it's it's it's classified okay maybe

2869
02:16:40,700 --> 02:16:39,179
you're talking about something your

2870
02:16:42,290 --> 02:16:40,710
aircraft is doing that it's not supposed

2871
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:42,300
to be able to do or something that that

2872
02:16:46,939 --> 02:16:44,880
thing is doing they so what if what if

2873
02:16:49,161 --> 02:16:46,949
you want to bring this information out

2874
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:49,171
but you have to dub the footage

2875
02:16:54,770 --> 02:16:52,410
right right Justin what water it down so

2876
02:16:56,991 --> 02:16:54,780
the public can wrap their minds around

2877
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:57,001
what if the chatter is just information

2878
02:17:00,770 --> 02:16:59,280
that you and I wouldn't necessarily be

2879
02:17:01,850 --> 02:17:00,780
able to discern you know it means the

2880
02:17:04,611 --> 02:17:01,860
general public wouldn't be able to

2881
02:17:06,590 --> 02:17:04,621
discern right you know I mean so they so

2882
02:17:09,321 --> 02:17:06,600
they dub it may be that remember how

2883
02:17:12,170 --> 02:17:09,331
when this first came out John Lear

2884
02:17:16,090 --> 02:17:12,180
called BS on it right remember that yes

2885
02:17:18,980 --> 02:17:16,100
he said and it was about the static

2886
02:17:21,350 --> 02:17:18,990
behind the chatter that he didn't like

2887
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:21,360
but there's another pilot because he's

2888
02:17:26,210 --> 02:17:23,280
you know he's an accomplished pilot he's

2889
02:17:28,940 --> 02:17:26,220
blowing everything whoo-hoo it didn't

2890
02:17:30,890 --> 02:17:28,950
ring true with and for me it's not the

2891
02:17:33,710 --> 02:17:30,900
static but it's just the wording is

2892
02:17:35,510 --> 02:17:33,720
wrong so maybe let's let's say the

2893
02:17:37,640 --> 02:17:35,520
footage is real but what if they had to

2894
02:17:40,791 --> 02:17:37,650
dub it maybe that's what happened I

2895
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:40,801
don't know but you know how do you if

2896
02:17:45,161 --> 02:17:42,240
you're trying to come out with the truth

2897
02:17:47,390 --> 02:17:45,171
you don't necessarily want to do with

2898
02:17:49,100 --> 02:17:47,400
fraudulent information or like

2899
02:17:50,690 --> 02:17:49,110
half-truths you know what I mean right

2900
02:17:52,041 --> 02:17:50,700
if you're trying to you're trying to get

2901
02:17:54,621 --> 02:17:52,051
people on your side it's kind of like

2902
02:17:56,541 --> 02:17:54,631
the the mylar balloon you know that to

2903
02:17:59,121 --> 02:17:56,551
the Stars Academy threw up there is an

2904
02:18:02,661 --> 02:17:59,131
authentic UFO you know once you do that

2905
02:18:04,850 --> 02:18:02,671
once it's discovered you know your

2906
02:18:05,390 --> 02:18:04,860
credibility is trashed and that's a

2907
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:05,400
shame

2908
02:18:09,170 --> 02:18:06,690
you know because especially if you're up

2909
02:18:10,850 --> 02:18:09,180
to something good and it just you got

2910
02:18:14,890 --> 02:18:10,860
one pulled over yeah you know I think

2911
02:18:19,850 --> 02:18:14,900
that's what happened to our friend the

2912
02:18:22,310 --> 02:18:19,860
the other part of it because credibility

2913
02:18:24,470 --> 02:18:22,320
is everything in the UFO community

2914
02:18:27,321 --> 02:18:24,480
you've been you've been fighting the

2915
02:18:32,980 --> 02:18:27,331
good fight for nearly 20 years now Steve

2916
02:18:36,250 --> 02:18:32,990
and you know you've seen so many

2917
02:18:42,201 --> 02:18:36,260
experiencers eyewitnesses videos

2918
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:42,211
videographers authors come and go right

2919
02:18:49,911 --> 02:18:47,610
and once our credibility is blown with

2920
02:18:52,460 --> 02:18:49,921
this community you're done you're toast

2921
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:52,470
you're done you don't you don't get a

2922
02:18:57,650 --> 02:18:53,730
second crack at it

2923
02:19:02,420 --> 02:18:57,660
and when it comes to this the stuff with

2924
02:19:04,791 --> 02:19:02,430
the Pentagon and T TSA when you say that

2925
02:19:08,030 --> 02:19:04,801
the government the Pentagon has released

2926
02:19:09,260 --> 02:19:08,040
these videos to T TSA when it turns out

2927
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:09,270
that the videos have been out there on

2928
02:19:12,680 --> 02:19:11,040
the web and and they've been analyzed

2929
02:19:15,410 --> 02:19:12,690
and looked at and talked about in debunk

2930
02:19:19,670 --> 02:19:15,420
or whatever for some of it for a very

2931
02:19:23,060 --> 02:19:19,680
very long time how do you recover from

2932
02:19:25,700 --> 02:19:23,070
that what what does TSA do to get their

2933
02:19:27,850 --> 02:19:25,710
feet back on the ground and get the the

2934
02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:27,860
confidence back from the UFO community

2935
02:19:31,490 --> 02:19:29,760
yeah you know you haven't heard a

2936
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:31,500
statement from them about that and it's

2937
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:34,080
a shame the first thing you know damage

2938
02:19:37,850 --> 02:19:36,240
control the first thing they should have

2939
02:19:39,530 --> 02:19:37,860
happened as soon as that information

2940
02:19:40,791 --> 02:19:39,540
came out about the mylar balloons they

2941
02:19:43,850 --> 02:19:40,801
should have come out and made a

2942
02:19:46,910 --> 02:19:43,860
statement well they they tactically they

2943
02:19:49,251 --> 02:19:46,920
technically did they said was it yeah

2944
02:19:51,410 --> 02:19:49,261
they said some boilerplate thing you

2945
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:51,420
know we didn't know it was somebody else

2946
02:20:02,511 --> 02:19:54,330
in the organization and it was just put

2947
02:20:05,180 --> 02:20:02,521
up there and it was just you know was

2948
02:20:07,041 --> 02:20:05,190
well thought out by oh you got it you

2949
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:07,051
got to accept response you got to first

2950
02:20:11,631 --> 02:20:08,610
of all take responsibility for the

2951
02:20:14,511 --> 02:20:11,641
mistake right and that should have come

2952
02:20:15,980 --> 02:20:14,521
from Tom DeLonge you know he should have

2953
02:20:17,841 --> 02:20:15,990
come out with a statement I am so

2954
02:20:19,791 --> 02:20:17,851
embarrassed about this this is what

2955
02:20:22,121 --> 02:20:19,801
happened this is exactly what happened

2956
02:20:25,780 --> 02:20:22,131
it'll never happen again and here's why

2957
02:20:28,131 --> 02:20:25,790
and blah blah blah you know own up

2958
02:20:31,100 --> 02:20:28,141
though if you want to stay in business

2959
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:31,110
you know yeah you're right man so many

2960
02:20:36,190 --> 02:20:34,080
people come into the UFO world thinking

2961
02:20:39,890 --> 02:20:36,200
they're gonna perpetrate this hoax and

2962
02:20:42,801 --> 02:20:39,900
never get caught and it works for a

2963
02:20:44,541 --> 02:20:42,811
while but eventually you know they crash

2964
02:20:46,341 --> 02:20:44,551
and burn and they come and they go and

2965
02:20:48,291 --> 02:20:46,351
they crash and they burn the ones that

2966
02:20:51,890 --> 02:20:48,301
stay forever are the ones like Jim Marrs

2967
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:51,900
you know super integrity always well

2968
02:20:59,360 --> 02:20:55,110
researched and no you know no

2969
02:21:01,011 --> 02:20:59,370
BS right right the guys yeah well you

2970
02:21:04,150 --> 02:21:01,021
know you look at Dolan or Stanton

2971
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:04,160
Friedman or Linda Moulton Howe you know

2972
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:06,250
that

2973
02:21:25,500 --> 02:21:21,370
back to somebody like Bob Lazar who

2974
02:21:30,420 --> 02:21:25,510
certainly rode through a pretty good

2975
02:21:33,720 --> 02:21:30,430
thunderstorm of being debunked and and

2976
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:33,730
questioned and you know schooling

2977
02:21:40,590 --> 02:21:36,370
everything about him was was brought

2978
02:21:42,390 --> 02:21:40,600
forward to the point where the brothel

2979
02:21:45,930 --> 02:21:42,400
right I mean everything was brought

2980
02:21:48,690 --> 02:21:45,940
aboard God but here yeah poor guy and

2981
02:21:51,480 --> 02:21:48,700
you know yeah very bright and you know

2982
02:21:54,480 --> 02:21:51,490
he was smart about it though he said you

2983
02:21:57,180 --> 02:21:54,490
know what I'm not even into this this is

2984
02:21:59,820 --> 02:21:57,190
totally not for me I'm I'm gonna go make

2985
02:22:01,680 --> 02:21:59,830
my money elsewhere you know he never

2986
02:22:03,450 --> 02:22:01,690
went at it as if he was going to get on

2987
02:22:05,970 --> 02:22:03,460
the circuit a speaker for the rest of

2988
02:22:09,090 --> 02:22:05,980
his life he gate he told his story

2989
02:22:11,010 --> 02:22:09,100
that's what I love about Lazar is you

2990
02:22:12,930 --> 02:22:11,020
know I think he's he was totally legit

2991
02:22:14,310 --> 02:22:12,940
what I love about him is he just told

2992
02:22:15,690 --> 02:22:14,320
his story and said hey believe me or you

2993
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:15,700
don't believe me I don't care I'm out of

2994
02:22:25,770 --> 02:22:16,290
here

2995
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:25,780
others were he didn't come and go he

2996
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:29,290
well physically he did but today he is

2997
02:22:34,830 --> 02:22:33,130
held up high in the UFO community there

2998
02:22:37,070 --> 02:22:34,840
are still you know there still are those

2999
02:22:41,970 --> 02:22:37,080
out there that want to question him but

3000
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:41,980
today he is he's the guy and I man

3001
02:22:49,230 --> 02:22:45,310
nobody impresses me like Bob Lazar and I

3002
02:22:53,490 --> 02:22:49,240
don't I've gone back Steve repeatedly I

3003
02:22:55,710 --> 02:22:53,500
have forced Rita to analyze all of his

3004
02:22:58,830 --> 02:22:55,720
videos all of his presentations to go

3005
02:23:03,330 --> 02:22:58,840
through this with me and three two hours

3006
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:03,340
and hours right but it really is I've

3007
02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:05,470
tried to trap them up I've tried to trip

3008
02:23:11,300 --> 02:23:06,790
them up and I can't do it

3009
02:23:14,850 --> 02:23:11,310
III can't and here we are today this is

3010
02:23:19,501 --> 02:23:14,860
2018 and we're talking

3011
02:23:25,620 --> 02:23:19,511
nearly 30 years of Bob Lazar where I

3012
02:23:28,410 --> 02:23:25,630
think his his his stories as is as

3013
02:23:31,620 --> 02:23:28,420
strong today as it ever has been and and

3014
02:23:35,881 --> 02:23:31,630
here he is and we we hold him up yeah

3015
02:23:37,770 --> 02:23:35,891
and and which goes back to TTS a you

3016
02:23:40,791 --> 02:23:37,780
know how do you recover from these

3017
02:23:44,551 --> 02:23:40,801
mistakes I think that the other part

3018
02:23:49,310 --> 02:23:44,561
forty TSA and and I'm just gonna say

3019
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:49,320
this there's silence on the matter is is

3020
02:23:58,020 --> 02:23:55,690
deafening crushing what are you gonna do

3021
02:23:59,700 --> 02:23:58,030
you know you know come out and ask for

3022
02:24:03,600 --> 02:23:59,710
more money you know at that point what

3023
02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:03,610
do you do you know so you know they're

3024
02:24:08,730 --> 02:24:06,070
gonna have to something legit is gonna

3025
02:24:11,041 --> 02:24:08,740
have to come out of Bigelow that's gonna

3026
02:24:12,841 --> 02:24:11,051
somehow tie in with T TSA and save them

3027
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:12,851
otherwise I don't think they're gonna

3028
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:15,190
last much longer you think you're

3029
02:24:23,730 --> 02:24:19,120
already talking past tense yeah I mean

3030
02:24:27,350 --> 02:24:23,740
well kudos again I think T TSA has been

3031
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:27,360
used as a I think that Tom DeLonge as

3032
02:24:34,171 --> 02:24:30,880
nice of a guy I think he's been used by

3033
02:24:37,410 --> 02:24:34,181
the same people who are you know he's

3034
02:24:39,751 --> 02:24:37,420
being been used unwittingly by the same

3035
02:24:43,110 --> 02:24:39,761
people who are using Elizondo wittingly

3036
02:24:45,390 --> 02:24:43,120
you know name it's the same you know

3037
02:24:47,220 --> 02:24:45,400
puppetmaster using them both to do

3038
02:24:49,171 --> 02:24:47,230
whatever whatever they're doing I don't

3039
02:24:51,001 --> 02:24:49,181
know if it's soft disclosure or a

3040
02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:51,011
testing of the waters to see how the

3041
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:54,160
public responds you know or change yeah

3042
02:24:57,890 --> 02:24:56,080
who knows what's coming next

3043
02:25:01,020 --> 02:24:57,900
bottom line is it's coming from a

3044
02:25:02,341 --> 02:25:01,030
clandestine world and when it does you

3045
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:02,351
know what when that's the case when

3046
02:25:05,461 --> 02:25:03,490
you're dealing with the clandestine

3047
02:25:06,961 --> 02:25:05,471
environment you can't take anything at

3048
02:25:08,461 --> 02:25:06,971
face value

3049
02:25:11,310 --> 02:25:08,471
they're thinking two or three or four

3050
02:25:14,011 --> 02:25:11,320
steps ahead of you already so you know

3051
02:25:17,541 --> 02:25:14,021
you're at a disadvantage well you know

3052
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:17,551
when I when I talked to Tom on the phone

3053
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:21,490
nobody nicer cooler more enthusiastic

3054
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:26,440
about the subject than Tom I mean a very

3055
02:25:29,729 --> 02:25:28,090
cool likable guy

3056
02:25:32,059 --> 02:25:29,739
I mean I could seriously just hang out

3057
02:25:35,309 --> 02:25:32,069
with him and talk music and UFOs and

3058
02:25:36,450 --> 02:25:35,319
guitars all day and all night yeah yeah

3059
02:25:38,429 --> 02:25:36,460
I'm serious

3060
02:25:41,189 --> 02:25:38,439
thanks Paul you know what I mean he's he

3061
02:25:43,139 --> 02:25:41,199
yeah he's a great guy and he was a great

3062
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:43,149
music is a great musician so there you

3063
02:25:49,819 --> 02:25:47,790
he called me up one day and we were

3064
02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:49,829
sitting here I was I was in the bunker

3065
02:25:56,609 --> 02:25:53,130
and I said dude man I just got a Jackson

3066
02:25:58,410 --> 02:25:56,619
guitar right and he goes dude man you

3067
02:26:01,170 --> 02:25:58,420
always loved those pointy headstock

3068
02:26:03,510 --> 02:26:01,180
guitars and you know cracked-out me

3069
02:26:05,460 --> 02:26:03,520
really dude I asked for two I mean I

3070
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:05,470
just totally asked for but we laughed

3071
02:26:09,260 --> 02:26:08,319
together and I'm just saying that he's a

3072
02:26:13,710 --> 02:26:09,270
cool guy

3073
02:26:17,309 --> 02:26:13,720
yeah these mistakes that have happened

3074
02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:17,319
wooof I don't know man I don't know I

3075
02:26:21,210 --> 02:26:18,970
don't know I don't know what the future

3076
02:26:23,450 --> 02:26:21,220
is when it comes to that well what are

3077
02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:23,460
you going to be speaking about at

3078
02:26:28,460 --> 02:26:25,810
contact in the desert we're almost out

3079
02:26:30,300 --> 02:26:28,470
of time here I can't believe it oh wow

3080
02:26:32,639 --> 02:26:30,310
yeah thank you for asking

3081
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:32,649
it's gonna be about et contact and

3082
02:26:39,149 --> 02:26:34,960
evolution of human of the human mind

3083
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:39,159
basically so it's Sunday morning at 7:00

3084
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:42,699
a.m. and I you know I I had the same gig

3085
02:26:47,399 --> 02:26:45,850
two years ago when I spoke there and I

3086
02:26:49,410 --> 02:26:47,409
thought oh they'll be like three people

3087
02:26:51,210 --> 02:26:49,420
in the room the place was packed right

3088
02:26:53,280 --> 02:26:51,220
the room was packed

3089
02:26:56,519 --> 02:26:53,290
you know people that go to contact go

3090
02:26:59,160 --> 02:26:56,529
for the answers and you know I'm going

3091
02:27:03,990 --> 02:26:59,170
to be putting an emphasis on experiences

3092
02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:04,000
and contactees and abductees and and

3093
02:27:09,929 --> 02:27:06,970
those people resonate you know what I

3094
02:27:12,179 --> 02:27:09,939
mean they they and especially the ones

3095
02:27:14,849 --> 02:27:12,189
are sort of now just now awakening to it

3096
02:27:16,290 --> 02:27:14,859
they want to get answers and those

3097
02:27:17,700 --> 02:27:16,300
people are out there and probably hear

3098
02:27:19,530 --> 02:27:17,710
my voice and say I'm gonna be there for

3099
02:27:22,530 --> 02:27:19,540
this one be I've been putting some time

3100
02:27:23,969 --> 02:27:22,540
into it I hopefully hopefully will be

3101
02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:23,979
able to pass some information that

3102
02:27:29,939 --> 02:27:27,250
people find useful and and it's a good

3103
02:27:31,439 --> 02:27:29,949
good presentation well you're going to

3104
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:31,449
be you're going to be getting out there

3105
02:27:37,150 --> 02:27:35,210
Thursday so we'll see you on Thursday

3106
02:27:38,620 --> 02:27:37,160
the cool thing is we get to hang out

3107
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:38,630
because we're going to be setting up our

3108
02:27:48,729 --> 02:27:43,370
booths next to each other then right

3109
02:27:51,550 --> 02:27:48,739
next to that is a bar so there you see

3110
02:27:54,820 --> 02:27:51,560
Reid and I will see you Thursday

3111
02:27:57,130 --> 02:27:54,830
afternoon look forward to it thank you

3112
02:27:58,540 --> 02:27:57,140
so much Steve all the best thanks save

3113
02:28:00,130 --> 02:27:58,550
try to read it for me

3114
02:28:04,269 --> 02:28:00,140
she's right down the hall I'll talk to

3115
02:28:07,269 --> 02:28:04,279
you Steve Murillo

3116
02:28:09,250 --> 02:28:07,279
this is fade to black I am your host

3117
02:28:10,929 --> 02:28:09,260
Timmy church now I'm gonna take a quick

3118
02:28:13,059 --> 02:28:10,939
break I'm gonna come back and take all

3119
02:28:15,460 --> 02:28:13,069
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3120
02:28:17,130 --> 02:28:15,470
this is fade to black I'm your host Amy

3121
02:28:20,650 --> 02:28:17,140
Church on the game changer network and

3122
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:20,660
kg RA the planet I'll be right back stay

3123
02:28:41,330 --> 02:28:22,730
with me

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02:28:44,010 --> 02:28:41,340
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haunting you and you just felt better

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well we can't turn back the clocks and

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go back 10 or 15 years but you can start

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born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ

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[Music]

3201
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:40,579
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

3202
02:32:45,079 --> 02:32:43,050
your host Jimmy church open lines right

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02:32:48,769 --> 02:32:45,089
now three two three eight two five five

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zero four five four three two three two

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02:32:57,829 --> 02:32:53,069
seven five nine six nine five

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02:33:01,819 --> 02:32:57,839
I wanted to Rita and I saw a movie

3207
02:33:06,229 --> 02:33:01,829
believe it or not with a coast to coast

3208
02:33:08,769 --> 02:33:06,239
all weekend and fade to black all last

3209
02:33:12,829 --> 02:33:08,779
week and I know I wrote this article

3210
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:12,839
about our schedule over the next month

3211
02:33:20,479 --> 02:33:16,800
it's it's pretty insane and no time off

3212
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:20,489
but Rita and I managed to see a movie

3213
02:33:23,649 --> 02:33:23,010
this weekend that you've got to check

3214
02:33:29,389 --> 02:33:23,659
out

3215
02:33:36,949 --> 02:33:29,399
it's called annihilation and if you

3216
02:33:43,790 --> 02:33:36,959
haven't seen it yet the the script the

3217
02:33:49,460 --> 02:33:43,800
way that it is written the the storyline

3218
02:33:55,189 --> 02:33:49,470
behind it completely 100% original now

3219
02:34:01,099 --> 02:33:55,199
it it's stars Jennifer Jason Leigh

3220
02:34:05,269 --> 02:34:01,109
Natalie Portman and it's it's it's based

3221
02:34:07,340 --> 02:34:05,279
on a novel by a Jeff Vandermeer and Gina

3222
02:34:11,779 --> 02:34:07,350
Rodriguez is in the - she's really

3223
02:34:19,069 --> 02:34:11,789
really good and Oscar Isaac who I always

3224
02:34:21,519 --> 02:34:19,079
confused with Adrian Grenier it's it's I

3225
02:34:29,719 --> 02:34:21,529
don't know how to put it into words the

3226
02:34:33,739 --> 02:34:29,729
film is it's about ET now they suggest

3227
02:34:36,500 --> 02:34:33,749
that in the very beginning okay so that

3228
02:34:38,269 --> 02:34:36,510
it could possibly be extraterrestrial

3229
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:38,279
and so you don't really know but anyway

3230
02:34:43,460 --> 02:34:40,560
it's about this area it's called the

3231
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:43,470
shimmer and which again it that's all

3232
02:34:47,569 --> 02:34:45,600
set up in the very beginning of the

3233
02:34:49,921 --> 02:34:47,579
movie so I'm not giving anything away

3234
02:34:54,331 --> 02:34:49,931
but this is

3235
02:34:58,490 --> 02:34:54,341
what's trippy about the flick totally

3236
02:35:06,450 --> 02:35:03,180
just when you think that it's gonna go

3237
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:06,460
in one of two directions like it's gonna

3238
02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:08,650
be a horror film or that it's going to

3239
02:35:15,091 --> 02:35:11,710
be some et Terminator type thing when

3240
02:35:18,051 --> 02:35:15,101
you think it's gonna go in in either one

3241
02:35:24,421 --> 02:35:18,061
of those directions it does not

3242
02:35:28,591 --> 02:35:24,431
scientifically and the the biology side

3243
02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:28,601
of it is pretty pretty amazing now this

3244
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:31,360
is a film that I'm going to highly

3245
02:35:38,160 --> 02:35:34,240
highly suggest that every single one of

3246
02:35:41,430 --> 02:35:38,170
you watches number one and number two I

3247
02:35:46,740 --> 02:35:41,440
think it's going to be discussed for a

3248
02:35:49,051 --> 02:35:46,750
while a lot like arrival or interstellar

3249
02:35:53,131 --> 02:35:49,061
or 2001 a Space Odyssey I think

3250
02:35:57,240 --> 02:35:53,141
anihilation the the the title of the

3251
02:35:59,430 --> 02:35:57,250
film is misleading now the title of the

3252
02:36:01,740 --> 02:35:59,440
film at the end of the film makes

3253
02:36:02,820 --> 02:36:01,750
perfect sense but when you see it

3254
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:02,830
annihilation

3255
02:36:09,091 --> 02:36:05,200
you know you're gonna you're gonna be

3256
02:36:11,671 --> 02:36:09,101
put off by it so don't worry about the

3257
02:36:15,660 --> 02:36:11,681
title go and watch the film

3258
02:36:17,600 --> 02:36:15,670
it is incredible it's absolutely

3259
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:17,610
incredible the story and everything else

3260
02:36:20,730 --> 02:36:19,570
there you go alright let's go to the

3261
02:36:25,831 --> 02:36:20,740
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3262
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:25,841
who's calling The Awakening man oh is

3263
02:36:32,730 --> 02:36:29,200
the awakening man this must be Eric Eric

3264
02:36:34,950 --> 02:36:32,740
yes then be at the indio house where

3265
02:36:36,930 --> 02:36:34,960
we're here we figured out a way that

3266
02:36:40,650 --> 02:36:36,940
Cortana and do you sit in the next me

3267
02:36:42,751 --> 02:36:40,660
and we're so excited about CIT G CITV

3268
02:36:44,820 --> 02:36:42,761
Jimmy I just had to call I'm just I'm

3269
02:36:48,180 --> 02:36:44,830
just pumped this is the best event

3270
02:36:50,341 --> 02:36:48,190
leader in the history of ufology a

3271
02:36:52,020 --> 02:36:50,351
consciousness it's not just that it's

3272
02:36:53,820 --> 02:36:52,030
it's an experience people don't

3273
02:36:55,051 --> 02:36:53,830
understand it's not like you're going to

3274
02:36:56,970 --> 02:36:55,061
show up and you're going to sit in a

3275
02:36:59,131 --> 02:36:56,980
room and listen to a lot of intelligent

3276
02:37:01,320 --> 02:36:59,141
people tell great stories this is an

3277
02:37:04,511 --> 02:37:01,330
experience and anybody who doesn't get

3278
02:37:06,310 --> 02:37:04,521
here it's really missing the boat do you

3279
02:37:07,690 --> 02:37:06,320
of course I agree with you but wait a

3280
02:37:10,420 --> 02:37:07,700
minute you said you're in the fader

3281
02:37:12,450 --> 02:37:10,430
house we're at the théâtre house and

3282
02:37:15,130 --> 02:37:12,460
it's at right five miles down the road

3283
02:37:17,500 --> 02:37:15,140
where the secluded gated communities so

3284
02:37:19,930 --> 02:37:17,510
we can't have any CIA come and visit us

3285
02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:19,940
right on so you're gonna give the

3286
02:37:25,900 --> 02:37:22,880
address out over the air right now no no

3287
02:37:27,490 --> 02:37:25,910
if we're not okay aid or not and you

3288
02:37:28,690 --> 02:37:27,500
you're welcome obviously but you need to

3289
02:37:30,250 --> 02:37:28,700
get a hold of me because I have to

3290
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:30,260
there's like a secret code did you

3291
02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:31,490
actually have to give the 20 to the

3292
02:37:35,410 --> 02:37:32,330
gardener

3293
02:37:37,450 --> 02:37:35,420
literally a guard 24/7 at the fence and

3294
02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:37,460
he will not let you in if you're CIA

3295
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:38,690
you're not getting in and it's one what

3296
02:37:42,850 --> 02:37:41,090
people know right now have you have you

3297
02:37:44,320 --> 02:37:42,860
you know what you got to do you got to

3298
02:37:53,170 --> 02:37:44,330
go up to that guy you got to slip them a

3299
02:37:55,330 --> 02:37:53,180
hun ski we're gonna have a few people

3300
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:55,340
stop by just just just be patient with

3301
02:38:07,060 --> 02:37:57,760
us who's in the background

3302
02:38:08,620 --> 02:38:07,070
okay Cortana's okay sounds like you're

3303
02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:08,630
go back lis tapping already

3304
02:38:16,990 --> 02:38:14,090
I am so like our closet in the desert

3305
02:38:23,880 --> 02:38:17,000
starts right now are you guys ready are

3306
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:26,350
Jimmy are you coming Thursday I just

3307
02:38:30,220 --> 02:38:28,010
want to know you coming up Thursday or

3308
02:38:32,110 --> 02:38:30,230
what's the plan yes I will be there Reid

3309
02:38:35,350 --> 02:38:32,120
and I will be pulling in Thursday

3310
02:38:36,820 --> 02:38:35,360
afternoon okay so just so you know if

3311
02:38:37,960 --> 02:38:36,830
you guys need a place to crash you can

3312
02:38:40,930 --> 02:38:37,970
have the master bedroom

3313
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:40,940
with you you're walking we're gonna have

3314
02:38:44,110 --> 02:38:43,610
a whole bar it's just fantastic you're

3315
02:38:45,580 --> 02:38:44,120
gonna love it

3316
02:38:48,580 --> 02:38:45,590
you guys got to show up I'm Thursday

3317
02:38:49,990 --> 02:38:48,590
night grab a free CI TD party and then

3318
02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:50,000
of course we'll figure it out Friday

3319
02:38:52,720 --> 02:38:51,170
Saturday night whatever we can put

3320
02:38:54,940 --> 02:38:52,730
together it's all gonna happen right

3321
02:38:56,980 --> 02:38:54,950
here well I'm just gonna let you know we

3322
02:39:04,810 --> 02:38:56,990
have the Presidential Suite on the top

3323
02:39:06,430 --> 02:39:04,820
floor that's like eight hundred and

3324
02:39:15,400 --> 02:39:06,440
forty six dollars are you aware that

3325
02:39:16,940 --> 02:39:15,410
it's it's pretty sweet so now listen

3326
02:39:20,690 --> 02:39:16,950
Eric I just wanted to say

3327
02:39:24,171 --> 02:39:20,700
that I did watch your 10-minute

3328
02:39:27,530 --> 02:39:24,181
walkthrough video of the Renaissance and

3329
02:39:28,850 --> 02:39:27,540
that place it's beautiful but it's it's

3330
02:39:30,860 --> 02:39:28,860
big isn't it

3331
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:30,870
its massive and you know what's awesome

3332
02:39:36,620 --> 02:39:34,080
is you walk in the layout is beautiful

3333
02:39:38,091 --> 02:39:36,630
all the speakers and the conference

3334
02:39:40,370 --> 02:39:38,101
rooms are on the left-hand side and

3335
02:39:42,830 --> 02:39:40,380
they're all lined up on that massive

3336
02:39:44,900 --> 02:39:42,840
building and so you it's just so

3337
02:39:46,940 --> 02:39:44,910
convenient you can go from one room to

3338
02:39:48,980 --> 02:39:46,950
the next room the way this way all the

3339
02:39:51,110 --> 02:39:48,990
tables will be laid out where the bar is

3340
02:39:53,900 --> 02:39:51,120
if you want to go a swim for a little

3341
02:39:56,960 --> 02:39:53,910
while come bad this is five-star I mean

3342
02:39:58,640 --> 02:39:56,970
I'm gonna miss a Joshua Tree but this is

3343
02:40:00,171 --> 02:39:58,650
five-star anybody that's coming you're

3344
02:40:00,680 --> 02:40:00,181
gonna get a five-star experience that's

3345
02:40:02,600 --> 02:40:00,690
a fact

3346
02:40:04,131 --> 02:40:02,610
oh wait Derek see that right now now did

3347
02:40:09,080 --> 02:40:04,141
you get a chance to go into the big

3348
02:40:11,180 --> 02:40:09,090
amphitheater I did oh I don't wanna I

3349
02:40:13,580 --> 02:40:11,190
don't want to ruin any surprises but can

3350
02:40:15,591 --> 02:40:13,590
you tell you this is such a bargain and

3351
02:40:17,511 --> 02:40:15,601
I get nothing for saying this other than

3352
02:40:19,551 --> 02:40:17,521
I know based on doing this for over a

3353
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:19,561
year now and trying to go as many of us

3354
02:40:24,470 --> 02:40:22,080
I can this is such a fantastic bargain

3355
02:40:26,421 --> 02:40:24,480
anybody that's on the fence is just got

3356
02:40:29,511 --> 02:40:26,431
to figure out a way to get here and and

3357
02:40:30,801 --> 02:40:29,521
you know you need a place to crash bring

3358
02:40:33,080 --> 02:40:30,811
a sleeping bag we'll figure it out but

3359
02:40:35,270 --> 02:40:33,090
the point is is you just gotta get here

3360
02:40:38,930 --> 02:40:35,280
that's I'm just serious this is gonna be

3361
02:40:41,421 --> 02:40:38,940
their death now I counted like I could

3362
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:41,431
be wrong but did I count like five bars

3363
02:40:54,051 --> 02:40:50,250
in your walkthrough I did right the main

3364
02:40:56,900 --> 02:40:54,061
bar and then and there's a bar at the

3365
02:40:58,790 --> 02:40:56,910
pool which is just you know how can you

3366
02:41:00,470 --> 02:40:58,800
beat a bar in a pool right the mister is

3367
02:41:02,180 --> 02:41:00,480
blowing so if it's you know it is a

3368
02:41:04,341 --> 02:41:02,190
hundred degrees but it's a dry heat and

3369
02:41:05,930 --> 02:41:04,351
with the misters blowing you're indoors

3370
02:41:10,310 --> 02:41:05,940
it's gonna feel like it's gonna feel

3371
02:41:13,640 --> 02:41:10,320
like a beautiful spring day this is why

3372
02:41:17,540 --> 02:41:13,650
I'm bringing it up because Joshua Tree

3373
02:41:22,070 --> 02:41:17,550
which is an amazing piece of land it's

3374
02:41:26,570 --> 02:41:22,080
great and but there wasn't a place to go

3375
02:41:28,900 --> 02:41:26,580
and hang out you had to leave to go and

3376
02:41:31,660 --> 02:41:28,910
do that right and so

3377
02:41:34,690 --> 02:41:31,670
that that opportunity was not there here

3378
02:41:37,540 --> 02:41:34,700
there is a place for everybody to get

3379
02:41:41,140 --> 02:41:37,550
together in in in different areas and

3380
02:41:44,051 --> 02:41:41,150
spots around where we can just just hang

3381
02:41:45,430 --> 02:41:44,061
out and talk and we don't have to we

3382
02:41:47,230 --> 02:41:45,440
don't have to leave and that's why I'm

3383
02:41:48,580 --> 02:41:47,240
bringing it up I'm not bringing it up

3384
02:41:50,860 --> 02:41:48,590
well of course we're going to be

3385
02:41:53,620 --> 02:41:50,870
drinking and conversing and having fun

3386
02:41:55,600 --> 02:41:53,630
but there wasn't any place to do that

3387
02:41:59,650 --> 02:41:55,610
there wasn't any facilities and the

3388
02:42:04,511 --> 02:41:59,660
other thing is over at Joshua Tree you

3389
02:42:06,580 --> 02:42:04,521
you had the the food trucks but you only

3390
02:42:08,320 --> 02:42:06,590
had the cafeteria there so you always

3391
02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:08,330
had to leave the grounds there wasn't

3392
02:42:15,910 --> 02:42:11,840
any place to just go kick back sit down

3393
02:42:17,980 --> 02:42:15,920
relax and and and have you know a glass

3394
02:42:21,011 --> 02:42:17,990
of water and or you know or something

3395
02:42:23,530 --> 02:42:21,021
there were we didn't have that over in

3396
02:42:25,240 --> 02:42:23,540
Joshua Tree here we do have that and I

3397
02:42:29,080 --> 02:42:25,250
think that's important especially when

3398
02:42:32,020 --> 02:42:29,090
you have five thousand people yeah I

3399
02:42:33,761 --> 02:42:32,030
mean Victoria and she's and the

3400
02:42:34,350 --> 02:42:33,771
gentleman is his name slips me what's

3401
02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:34,360
his name again

3402
02:42:40,900 --> 02:42:37,760
yeah Paul Andrews yes he's great great

3403
02:42:42,551 --> 02:42:40,910
people and they have done I'm Tania if I

3404
02:42:44,140 --> 02:42:42,561
had their job I would have done it any

3405
02:42:46,150 --> 02:42:44,150
differently they I think they picked the

3406
02:42:49,511 --> 02:42:46,160
perfect spot it's really I mean it's not

3407
02:42:51,730 --> 02:42:49,521
far from the airport I'm excited I mean

3408
02:42:53,530 --> 02:42:51,740
I came out here seriously I'm so jacked

3409
02:42:55,180 --> 02:42:53,540
up I came out here a week ago and I

3410
02:42:56,591 --> 02:42:55,190
stayed out in Joshua Tree because I just

3411
02:42:58,180 --> 02:42:56,601
wanted to feel that vibe but I didn't

3412
02:42:59,740 --> 02:42:58,190
get a chance to really fully experience

3413
02:43:01,690 --> 02:42:59,750
last year because I was mostly at the

3414
02:43:04,030 --> 02:43:01,700
conference listening to the speakers

3415
02:43:05,381 --> 02:43:04,040
which was great but there is a vibe to

3416
02:43:08,500 --> 02:43:05,391
Joshua Tree that is different than

3417
02:43:13,600 --> 02:43:08,510
Indian Wells but Indian Wells has so

3418
02:43:15,400 --> 02:43:13,610
many amazing cultural experiences that

3419
02:43:17,830 --> 02:43:15,410
it's going to be just it's going to be

3420
02:43:19,390 --> 02:43:17,840
incredible same now and there's this

3421
02:43:21,040 --> 02:43:19,400
place called the boobs just I gotta tell

3422
02:43:23,410 --> 02:43:21,050
you this there's right across the way

3423
02:43:26,110 --> 02:43:23,420
it's called the boo it's an exclusive

3424
02:43:27,400 --> 02:43:26,120
bar restaurant so if people we might be

3425
02:43:29,170 --> 02:43:27,410
hanging out there if it gets too crazy

3426
02:43:30,730 --> 02:43:29,180
at the Renaissance but it's literally

3427
02:43:33,220 --> 02:43:30,740
right across the way so it's pretty

3428
02:43:39,540 --> 02:43:33,230
fantastic now who are you looking

3429
02:43:45,020 --> 02:43:42,110
they're really you know I

3430
02:43:47,330 --> 02:43:45,030
like Richard Dolan I just personally if

3431
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:47,340
if I grew up in New York and Richard

3432
02:43:50,210 --> 02:43:48,720
Dolan looks like a schoolmate of mine

3433
02:43:51,980 --> 02:43:50,220
he'd be one of my buddies there's no

3434
02:43:54,320 --> 02:43:51,990
doubt about it that guy is just a sharp

3435
02:43:57,020 --> 02:43:54,330
dude he's on top of things he does his

3436
02:43:58,580 --> 02:43:57,030
homework I mean yeah I'm gonna try

3437
02:44:00,290 --> 02:43:58,590
hopefully but you'll come over to the

3438
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:00,300
fader house over here and hang out with

3439
02:44:04,520 --> 02:44:02,730
us I mean we really want to encourage as

3440
02:44:06,530 --> 02:44:04,530
many of the speakers in the fader not to

3441
02:44:09,980 --> 02:44:06,540
come over and hang out with us in plenty

3442
02:44:11,600 --> 02:44:09,990
of room we could easily fit 60 to 80

3443
02:44:14,060 --> 02:44:11,610
people here comfortably but you know

3444
02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:14,070
again invite the whole world but yeah

3445
02:44:19,761 --> 02:44:14,730
Richard Dolan

3446
02:44:23,301 --> 02:44:19,771
he's a man okay yeah gonna be there by

3447
02:44:25,430 --> 02:44:23,311
the way mamrie Smith will be there okay

3448
02:44:27,710 --> 02:44:25,440
I'll tell you what you mean you get you

3449
02:44:30,500 --> 02:44:27,720
get a full blown bottle of Grey Goose

3450
02:44:32,301 --> 02:44:30,510
Bach I don't care what sizes you just if

3451
02:44:34,700 --> 02:44:32,311
you get any to come over and hang out at

3452
02:44:36,380 --> 02:44:34,710
the Bader house that's on the house so

3453
02:44:38,591 --> 02:44:36,390
just so you know I was I like that guy

3454
02:44:42,650 --> 02:44:38,601
that guy's he's number two in my book

3455
02:44:46,520 --> 02:44:42,660
yeah yeah very excited that he's been

3456
02:44:48,830 --> 02:44:46,530
added over at contacting the desert that

3457
02:44:54,470 --> 02:44:48,840
was a really really really big deal I

3458
02:44:56,720 --> 02:44:54,480
mean the the addition of Emory to a list

3459
02:44:59,660 --> 02:44:56,730
of speakers that's already so complete

3460
02:45:01,580 --> 02:44:59,670
you know how do you take it to 11 you

3461
02:45:03,740 --> 02:45:01,590
know what were do you know God

3462
02:45:06,830 --> 02:45:03,750
yeah I know right I mean you know if I

3463
02:45:09,410 --> 02:45:06,840
just something about that guy intuition

3464
02:45:11,930 --> 02:45:09,420
this is an internal knowing I believe

3465
02:45:13,160 --> 02:45:11,940
him and he's actually sharing things

3466
02:45:15,380 --> 02:45:13,170
that's helping us kind of put this

3467
02:45:16,610 --> 02:45:15,390
puzzle together and I believe the guy

3468
02:45:19,341 --> 02:45:16,620
and I think what he's sharing is

3469
02:45:22,190 --> 02:45:19,351
important and I'm excited about it who

3470
02:45:24,890 --> 02:45:22,200
else is there with you right now right

3471
02:45:27,470 --> 02:45:24,900
now we just got GG and Cortana and then

3472
02:45:30,261 --> 02:45:27,480
Thursday flying in from Florida

3473
02:45:31,580 --> 02:45:30,271
John Polk and the Brad Olsen's been

3474
02:45:32,930 --> 02:45:31,590
hanging out up there dude they did a

3475
02:45:36,261 --> 02:45:32,940
seminar out there I guess this last

3476
02:45:37,430 --> 02:45:36,271
weekend and several Karen's gonna come

3477
02:45:38,600 --> 02:45:37,440
we've got a lot of people coming in

3478
02:45:41,870 --> 02:45:38,610
Thursday so we're gonna have a nice

3479
02:45:44,270 --> 02:45:41,880
little pre CITV party here Thursday so

3480
02:45:45,410 --> 02:45:44,280
you got the addresses you know okay let

3481
02:45:48,591 --> 02:45:45,420
me know when you're coming we'll get you

3482
02:45:51,230 --> 02:45:48,601
all set up okay let me talk to Gigi okay

3483
02:45:54,469 --> 02:45:51,240
Gigi yeah make it quick I don't like

3484
02:46:03,269 --> 02:45:59,929
Jiji yeah hi there how are you man

3485
02:46:07,559 --> 02:46:03,279
fantastic man gotta give it to Eric man

3486
02:46:08,849 --> 02:46:07,569
he you know we didn't really know if we

3487
02:46:11,519 --> 02:46:08,859
were gonna have a spot this year and

3488
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:11,529
then uh Eric quite literally saved today

3489
02:46:17,219 --> 02:46:15,010
and it's pretty sick man you know I got

3490
02:46:21,660 --> 02:46:17,229
to say I'm gonna miss Joshua Tree I

3491
02:46:23,340 --> 02:46:21,670
think we you know those uh I don't know

3492
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:23,350
how we could ever top it at the same

3493
02:46:30,269 --> 02:46:28,000
time it looks like you know you can

3494
02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:30,279
already feel the energy here like Erica

3495
02:46:36,210 --> 02:46:33,010
saying yeah yeah I'm with you on that

3496
02:46:43,740 --> 02:46:36,220
no and for this year at CIT D who do you

3497
02:46:45,719 --> 02:46:43,750
want to go see man you know what well

3498
02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:45,729
you know that's the thing about CIT is

3499
02:46:49,889 --> 02:46:47,770
you know I've been the last this will be

3500
02:46:51,660 --> 02:46:49,899
my fourth year and you know a lot of the

3501
02:46:54,269 --> 02:46:51,670
times it's great to see the speakers

3502
02:46:57,570 --> 02:46:54,279
obviously but some of the most memorable

3503
02:46:59,400 --> 02:46:57,580
moments that I've had were you know

3504
02:47:01,200 --> 02:46:59,410
conversations in between the events and

3505
02:47:03,719 --> 02:47:01,210
meeting new people because you know

3506
02:47:06,090 --> 02:47:03,729
people do literally come from all over

3507
02:47:08,700 --> 02:47:06,100
the world and it's the biggest

3508
02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:08,710
conference of the year and so you know

3509
02:47:11,880 --> 02:47:10,450
what out I've just I've seen a lot of

3510
02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:11,890
people they just kind of they show up in

3511
02:47:15,889 --> 02:47:14,170
the morning they hit a couple events and

3512
02:47:18,360 --> 02:47:15,899
then they leave you know because they

3513
02:47:21,110 --> 02:47:18,370
maybe they think that's all there is but

3514
02:47:23,790 --> 02:47:21,120
if there's a fact I recommend is to just

3515
02:47:26,639 --> 02:47:23,800
hang around all day just meet everybody

3516
02:47:29,700 --> 02:47:26,649
you can meet and you know everybody is

3517
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:29,710
resonating on this higher frequency if

3518
02:47:34,349 --> 02:47:31,930
you will you know everybody's already in

3519
02:47:37,679 --> 02:47:34,359
that state and so everybody you meet

3520
02:47:39,780 --> 02:47:37,689
it's it's just a uh I don't know it's

3521
02:47:40,349 --> 02:47:39,790
like the Burning Man for our industry if

3522
02:47:42,780 --> 02:47:40,359
you will

3523
02:47:43,679 --> 02:47:42,790
maybe not quiet rambunctious yeah yeah

3524
02:47:46,940 --> 02:47:43,689
you're right about that

3525
02:47:54,059 --> 02:47:46,950
have you seen hey have you seen the film

3526
02:47:57,530 --> 02:47:54,069
annihilation no you have brand-new just

3527
02:47:59,760 --> 02:47:57,540
got released you need to watch

3528
02:48:02,969 --> 02:47:59,770
annihilation let me talk to Eric real

3529
02:48:04,380 --> 02:48:02,979
quick Gigi I'll see you in two days all

3530
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:04,390
right yeah we'll see you here man and I

3531
02:48:08,940 --> 02:48:06,250
will check that out all right

3532
02:48:10,530 --> 02:48:08,950
I mean let me talk to Eric Hey I mean

3533
02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:10,540
one quick question Jimmy I've never

3534
02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:12,790
asked you this but I know you can play

3535
02:48:16,200 --> 02:48:14,770
the guitar and and I don't really care

3536
02:48:18,179 --> 02:48:16,210
how good you are I just want to ask

3537
02:48:19,229 --> 02:48:18,189
please just bring and even if it's an

3538
02:48:21,769 --> 02:48:19,239
acoustic guitar

3539
02:48:24,269 --> 02:48:21,779
just bring it with you bro oh god

3540
02:48:26,070 --> 02:48:24,279
whatever it takes I would love to just

3541
02:48:28,769 --> 02:48:26,080
have a little a little Jam sussel what

3542
02:48:31,620 --> 02:48:28,779
you want yeah records Eric I know that

3543
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:31,630
you're rich but you just don't know no

3544
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:40,010
[Laughter]

3545
02:48:51,479 --> 02:48:49,950
so what if we do like saucer promo deal

3546
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:51,489
where we do it for fade to black and we

3547
02:48:53,190 --> 02:48:52,720
can raise some money I mean what's it

3548
02:48:55,620 --> 02:48:53,200
gonna take

3549
02:49:01,760 --> 02:48:55,630
I mean we get down to the bottom line

3550
02:49:04,889 --> 02:49:01,770
here 15 minutes of me shredding $10,000

3551
02:49:06,780 --> 02:49:04,899
$10,000 and you know what I will play it

3552
02:49:09,559 --> 02:49:06,790
all I'll play you some Yngwie I'll play

3553
02:49:13,889 --> 02:49:09,569
you some van Halen they play some of my

3554
02:49:16,410 --> 02:49:13,899
and but just think no it's cash in

3555
02:49:20,849 --> 02:49:18,420
I'll tell you what I would commit to a

3556
02:49:34,559 --> 02:49:20,859
thousand dollars two thousand a year for

3557
02:49:38,010 --> 02:49:34,569
five years now something much more

3558
02:49:40,219 --> 02:49:38,020
important than my guitar okay and is

3559
02:49:43,620 --> 02:49:40,229
this there's a movie out it's called

3560
02:49:47,639 --> 02:49:43,630
annihilation okay it's with a Natalie

3561
02:49:50,340 --> 02:49:47,649
Portman and Jennifer Jason Leigh you've

3562
02:49:53,910 --> 02:49:50,350
got DIRECTV there right you've got

3563
02:49:57,920 --> 02:49:53,920
Netflix you've got it on okay

3564
02:50:01,650 --> 02:49:57,930
it's yeah you can get it on DirecTV just

3565
02:50:03,870 --> 02:50:01,660
annihilation you guys need to watch that

3566
02:50:07,349 --> 02:50:03,880
film tonight

3567
02:50:08,790 --> 02:50:07,359
oh no no no we're we had way too much to

3568
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:08,800
drink that's how to go down that route

3569
02:50:12,870 --> 02:50:11,050
oh man you have no idea

3570
02:50:16,080 --> 02:50:12,880
you have we're gonna and we're talking

3571
02:50:17,700 --> 02:50:16,090
about aliens annihilating the planet

3572
02:50:19,710 --> 02:50:17,710
all right that's what I'm saying that

3573
02:50:21,900 --> 02:50:19,720
the name of the film has nothing to do

3574
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:21,910
with what the film is about didn't give

3575
02:50:26,820 --> 02:50:23,050
me a little tip just give me a little

3576
02:50:31,160 --> 02:50:26,830
okay I can't then I'll blow it for the

3577
02:50:33,870 --> 02:50:31,170
entire art just let me say this I

3578
02:50:36,060 --> 02:50:33,880
guarantee you you're gonna get to the

3579
02:50:38,219 --> 02:50:36,070
end of that and you are going to come up

3580
02:50:41,639 --> 02:50:38,229
to me and go to church that was the best

3581
02:50:44,190 --> 02:50:41,649
et film I've ever seen okay well you

3582
02:50:45,540 --> 02:50:44,200
know what I'm gonna have to sign up you

3583
02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:45,550
just closed me right there it's wrong

3584
02:50:52,160 --> 02:50:48,399
it's right up there with the rival 2001

3585
02:50:57,929 --> 02:50:52,170
a Space Odyssey Close Encounters

3586
02:51:02,400 --> 02:50:57,939
interstellar a brand-new movie that's

3587
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:02,410
why you listen to me sleeper you're

3588
02:51:10,290 --> 02:51:06,090
asleep I'm telling you I'm telling you

3589
02:51:12,630 --> 02:51:10,300
it is violation okay who's the star she

3590
02:51:16,590 --> 02:51:12,640
said Jennifer Jason Leigh and Natalie

3591
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:16,600
Portman that's right it's an all I'll

3592
02:51:23,280 --> 02:51:19,920
feel the male part their male partners I

3593
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:23,290
I sick what's his name I forget his lot

3594
02:51:39,330 --> 02:51:33,760
okay his name is Oscar Isaac Oscar Isaac

3595
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:39,340
but it's an all-female cast I'm telling

3596
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:43,120
you man I'm an Iowa ssin we got Netflix

3597
02:51:48,690 --> 02:51:46,210
we got a 60-inch Plasma at this place

3598
02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:48,700
what a deal it's not about being rich

3599
02:51:52,200 --> 02:51:49,630
I'm just gonna say it

3600
02:51:54,420 --> 02:51:52,210
we're talking eighty one dollars a day

3601
02:51:56,160 --> 02:51:54,430
when you see this place and you say you

3602
02:51:57,750 --> 02:51:56,170
paid eighty one dollars a day for this

3603
02:52:00,330 --> 02:51:57,760
you're gonna want to shake my hand just

3604
02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:00,340
for that alone Wow I'm not we got a pool

3605
02:52:03,450 --> 02:52:00,850
table

3606
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:03,460
we got a dartboard got a full-blown bar

3607
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:05,920
here we've got a beautiful living room

3608
02:52:09,750 --> 02:52:07,870
with like just things that disco lights

3609
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:09,760
he calls us the number one why can't

3610
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:12,010
down here anyway if you're gonna like it

3611
02:52:15,719 --> 02:52:14,290
it's got air conditioning anybody that

3612
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:15,729
comes here that's gonna have a good time

3613
02:52:20,099 --> 02:52:18,160
god I just wish more bait or knots that

3614
02:52:22,380 --> 02:52:20,109
are on the fence was just like pull it

3615
02:52:25,881 --> 02:52:22,390
out ain't ya here I'm here too many

3616
02:52:29,180 --> 02:52:25,891
whiners out there yeah I know

3617
02:52:31,370 --> 02:52:29,190
I know I I have the feeling this is

3618
02:52:33,620 --> 02:52:31,380
going to be the biggest and best contact

3619
02:52:35,180 --> 02:52:33,630
in the desert yeah yeah I'm gonna bet on

3620
02:52:37,310 --> 02:52:35,190
it right now and I caught up just so you

3621
02:52:38,930 --> 02:52:37,320
know I called Micah Hanks talked to him

3622
02:52:40,461 --> 02:52:38,940
for about 20 minutes I tried to get him

3623
02:52:42,711 --> 02:52:40,471
to come out but he's got a wedding this

3624
02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:42,721
weekend but he's gonna go to Saul Tech

3625
02:52:46,041 --> 02:52:44,160
and I said I don't care if you're

3626
02:52:48,020 --> 02:52:46,051
speaking or not like we need you out

3627
02:52:50,390 --> 02:52:48,030
there so you can tell Michael I'm

3628
02:52:51,501 --> 02:52:50,400
picking this one episode Mike the haints

3629
02:52:53,870 --> 02:52:51,511
gonna come out to hang out with his

3630
02:52:56,900 --> 02:52:53,880
voltec oh really that'll be fun he's

3631
02:52:58,011 --> 02:52:56,910
perfect for sole tech he's perfect yeah

3632
02:53:00,261 --> 02:52:58,021
yeah

3633
02:53:03,650 --> 02:53:00,271
the smartest wittiest most humorous guys

3634
02:53:04,850 --> 02:53:03,660
on the radio I mean yeah I'm grateful

3635
02:53:06,200 --> 02:53:04,860
you introduced me to him out there at

3636
02:53:10,160 --> 02:53:06,210
the Big Bear of that but the healings no

3637
02:53:12,640 --> 02:53:10,170
fest that guy's sleeper man alien snow

3638
02:53:15,560 --> 02:53:12,650
fast how many years ago was that Jesus

3639
02:53:19,070 --> 02:53:15,570
it seemed like 10 years ago but that was

3640
02:53:20,541 --> 02:53:19,080
felt a lot of fun Jesus God well it was

3641
02:53:22,910 --> 02:53:20,551
a loss anybody has to do is have one

3642
02:53:25,640 --> 02:53:22,920
alias no offense experience and they're

3643
02:53:28,610 --> 02:53:25,650
done after that right if they're not

3644
02:53:31,581 --> 02:53:28,620
done after that there's no hope for you

3645
02:53:33,381 --> 02:53:31,591
know the reason why that that we had so

3646
02:53:38,091 --> 02:53:33,391
much fun is because we were all together

3647
02:53:39,680 --> 02:53:38,101
you know and that was it but anyway

3648
02:53:42,200 --> 02:53:39,690
listen I gotta fly gotta roll credits

3649
02:53:44,780 --> 02:53:42,210
okay so I'll see you guys I'll see you

3650
02:53:46,970 --> 02:53:44,790
guys in a couple of days Thursday and we

3651
02:53:50,180 --> 02:53:46,980
roll into town today's Monday does not

3652
02:53:51,530 --> 02:53:50,190
forget three days yeah but we got

3653
02:53:53,051 --> 02:53:51,540
everything taken care of so you guys

3654
02:53:57,230 --> 02:53:53,061
don't have to worry about nothing

3655
02:53:59,180 --> 02:53:57,240
literally everything okay I'll talk to

3656
02:54:01,280 --> 02:53:59,190
you okay bye-bye

3657
02:54:04,511 --> 02:54:01,290
thank you so much all right that's Eric

3658
02:54:10,100 --> 02:54:04,521
awakening man he's at the fader house

3659
02:54:13,070 --> 02:54:10,110
out there at in Palm Springs Indian

3660
02:54:14,841 --> 02:54:13,080
Wells contact in the desert we're gonna

3661
02:54:18,020 --> 02:54:14,851
be there we're gonna roll in on Thursday

3662
02:54:20,030 --> 02:54:18,030
and things kick off on Friday and I

3663
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:20,040
agree with Eric if you're on the fence

3664
02:54:26,301 --> 02:54:23,370
just just get out there that's all you

3665
02:54:28,251 --> 02:54:26,311
got to do it's when we say that it's the

3666
02:54:30,410 --> 02:54:28,261
biggest and best and coolest and funnest

3667
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:30,420
and and all of that that's because it is

3668
02:54:37,730 --> 02:54:34,530
it is an insanely great event to go and

3669
02:54:38,730 --> 02:54:37,740
hang out all right I want to thank Steve

3670
02:54:40,350 --> 02:54:38,740
Murillo

3671
02:54:42,930 --> 02:54:40,360
for coming in tonight always a great

3672
02:54:47,370 --> 02:54:42,940
conversation with Steve tomorrow night

3673
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:47,380
Derrel Sims is gonna be here and always

3674
02:54:50,460 --> 02:54:48,880
great when Daryl joins the show we've

3675
02:54:51,570 --> 02:54:50,470
got a couple of things specifically that

3676
02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:51,580
we're going to be talking about tomorrow

3677
02:54:57,450 --> 02:54:55,090
night and then Wednesday will be fate or

3678
02:55:00,570 --> 02:54:57,460
night we're moving it up one day because

3679
02:55:03,060 --> 02:55:00,580
Thursday night we will be off air we're

3680
02:55:06,330 --> 02:55:03,070
going to be on the road Friday night we

3681
02:55:08,570 --> 02:55:06,340
will be broadcasting live from contact

3682
02:55:10,650 --> 02:55:08,580
in the desert live studio audience and

3683
02:55:13,590 --> 02:55:10,660
just like we do every year we'll

3684
02:55:16,110 --> 02:55:13,600
probably run 1416 guests through the

3685
02:55:18,420 --> 02:55:16,120
show in three hours and that'll be

3686
02:55:22,020 --> 02:55:18,430
Friday night and we'll see everybody out

3687
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:22,030
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go back Lee tappy